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1) You need a high pressure tank (850 psi) I use crossfire and had no problems. You can find a new steel bottle no name brand for 35-50 brand new on ebay.
2) A properly L10 bolt will give you a mechanical anti-chop. Should it be your first upgrade? Depends on what your trying to accomplish. If your going to upgrade the body, frame, rail, e trigger, pneu, or stay mech. It's probably cheaper to by a new or used setup from on of the AGD or a vendor.
3) Yes it is. There several options, a modded spydermag, pneumag, emag lowers, hyper frame, booyah frame, etc. You can search it here or google it.
4) yup. a used one in good condition go for @ 850 - 1200. A SfL will be even higher. -
Thank you for the info.
Is a high presure tank better than co2 for the automag? Should still use a regulator when I use high presure air? Lastly do need to do anything to my gun before I start to use high presure air?
I have seen a couple of guns listed for sale have a description with 1 or four stars. do you know what the stars means?Last edited by OldTimer; 01-27-2008, 11:14 AM.Comment
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Just to add to Flyingpootang
1) Any HP output tank will work. They have a red colored valve.
2) A lvl 10 is a great upgrade. Although when I had a lvl 7 I rarely chopped a ball anyway so it's up to you whether or not o spend the money. If you do decide to spend a lot of money, the X-Valve comes with a lvl 10 so you wouldn't have buy each seperate.
3) Flying took care of that
but if you want something like that, try to test out a mag that has an x-valve or RT-valve, very fast while still mechanical.
4) It's no longer made but can still be found. If that's what you are looking for don't be surprised to spend quite a bit of money
In regards to your second post
HP is "better" but not needed. It's more consistent and not effected by temperture change as much as CO2 is. With a mag you will not need a regulator, it can go straight into the marker. Nothing needs to be changed on you mag, it's perfect the way it is The stars are like warrenty. If something were to happen to your valve you could send it in. Each time sent in a star gets taken off. - Now I am not 100% on the details but that is the basics of the stars.
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Mike B. I thank you for your comments. I not sure how many new electronic gun makers will be a to say that their gun will work after a 15 year sabbatical. This is what creates brand loyalty.Comment
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I wouldn't worry about upgrading you Mag until you play for a season and see what you really want to do. Many Mag users stay Mech, and dont use electro frames or Emags, so again its dependent on how you want to play. Shop around and get a good HPA tank, if you shoot around 300 rounds a game, a 47ci/3000psi will be ok, as long as your field offers all day air refills. My recommendation for a tank is a 68ci/4500psi tank. Thats about the most widely used size, and can be picked up used cheap, or about $175 or so new. Just make sure you have a decent motorized hopper, (Viewloader Revolution are still good) and an HPA tank, then go play some before getting upgrades. You also might want to get a new mask, thermal lenses are best. If you wear glasses, the V-force line of goggles are very nice.I have nothing good to put here...........
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Originally posted by Shane-O-Mac
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Thank you for your insight and I have to agree with everything you have said. but have another question. Is their any limitations to the size of the tank I use? B/C Flyingpootang stated a 850 psi tank.Comment
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The 850 psi is the out put pressure of the air tank. There are many sizes of tanks you could get, examples are 45,48,68,88, cubic inch tanks. They can then be divided by the pressure they can contain, either 3000psi or 4500psi. The larger the tank and higher pressure the more shots you get. A rough estimate I use is if you have a 3kpsi tank, you'll get about 10 shots per cubic inch (45ci tank * 10 = 450 shots). With a 4500psi tank multiply the cubic inches by 15 (45ci tank * 15 = 675 shots). Now keep in mind that is a estimate and Mags are gas hogs. That all being said, depending on how much you shoot in a game and if you feild has all day air, I recomend a 68ci/4500 psi tank. If your feild can not fill to 4500 then a 3k tank is fine, just less amount of shots.
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And Hey welcome back to the fold & the field , Mag user's with old markers coming out of the closet is nothing new , just throw a couple drops of oil in it cycle it a dozen times clean the barrel ( if you forgot to take it off ) , just don't be scared by the electro's just use your old timer smart's & stelthComment
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Yeah! I got a kick out of playing aggressive against these electronic guns. So far I have been able to purchase another automag for one of my nephews who played last night with it. I love the design and simplicity of these guns.Originally posted by maniacmechanicLast edited by OldTimer; 01-27-2008, 08:09 PM.Comment
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Thank you for spelling it out for. I have a much better understanding now.Originally posted by Mikey BThe 850 psi is the out put pressure of the air tank. There are many sizes of tanks you could get, examples are 45,48,68,88, cubic inch tanks. They can then be divided by the pressure they can contain, either 3000psi or 4500psi. The larger the tank and higher pressure the more shots you get. A rough estimate I use is if you have a 3kpsi tank, you'll get about 10 shots per cubic inch (45ci tank * 10 = 450 shots). With a 4500psi tank multiply the cubic inches by 15 (45ci tank * 15 = 675 shots). Now keep in mind that is a estimate and Mags are gas hogs. That all being said, depending on how much you shoot in a game and if you feild has all day air, I recomend a 68ci/4500 psi tank. If your feild can not fill to 4500 then a 3k tank is fine, just less amount of shots.Comment
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So is Paintball still considered the fastest growing sport? I worked at a paintball store/field while in High school I only can remember 6 manufactures. It is amazing how many there are today. I'm glad to see AGD with the hosting of this site.Comment
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This is a copy from a JT newsletter I googled up. It was from Sep 14 2007;
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as i always say, if you gotta use a whole hopper on one person, you need to find a new hobby. either that or take some target practice.
Just make sure you shoot the electro guys in the gun to piss them offComment
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My $.02
I aggree with the run what you brung for a season and see where your coming up short. Need more speed, look at a pneu or electro. Chops a bit, look at a better loader or L10. bottom line, if it aint broke dont fix it (im a complete hipocrite btw, i cant leave anything alone).
Best bang for the buck in my experience is go with an compressed air system and a decent loader. A steely hpa tank is only about $50 (or cheaper) and puts the air to the gun just as well as a $200 fiber tank. the only downside is the steely is a bit heavier and cant be filled up to 4500, but I rarely get more than 3k-3.5k from fill stations anyway. Keep your CO2 as a backup, but once you try out hpa you wont want to use it unless you have to.
Pick up a revy or an plain jane Empire reloader. You can find em for about $20 used and $40ish new. Either will get awsome battery life and feed a reliable 10 per second which is plenty. Personally I like the reloader because its proactive but either is just as good.
You'll be into upgrades for about $50 total and you wont outgrow the new stuff for a long while (and many $$ of other upgrades)Comment
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