Tac one problems

[lidocaine]

I am having some issues on getting my tac one running and hope someone will be able to help me.

I gas up my tac, and it starts slightly leaking, it sounds like its coming from the bolt, and down the barrel.It shoots about 2 or 3 times( after pulling trigger a few times for each shot fired) and then it seems to lose compression and I have to bleed out the excess air and re gas it up for it to regain compression for the 2-3 shots.

It is brand new from tunamart.
I have a little over 2k psi in my tank left so that shouldnt be the problem.

Thanks alot,Lidocaine

[Me�iCX]

Sounds like bolt stick. Tune your lvl 10 bolt. Also mags like lots of oil! Make sure to keep it well oiled.

[lidocaine]

This is my first mag.
I have no idea what the problem is, if I knew I would have had it fixed (tuned)
Any ideas on how to start?( 2 line carrier, oil it well, im not sure how to oil it considering I cant get the gun firing to shoot oil through it.

Also, I cant seem to get the X valve out, I took the fieldstrip screw out but it doesnt budge, it moves a tiny bit then but wont come out at all.

Thanks alot,Lidocaine

[xxkylexx]

This is my first mag.
I have no idea what the problem is, if I knew I would have had it fixed (tuned)
Any ideas on how to start?( 2 line carrier, oil it well, im not sure how to oil it considering I cant get the gun firing to shoot oil through it.

Also, I cant seem to get the X valve out, I took the fieldstrip screw out but it doesnt budge, it moves a tiny bit then but wont come out at all.

Thanks alot,Lidocaine

Pull the trigger and the valve will pop out then :) .

[lidocaine]

thank you thank you.

Now suggestions on getting the mag itself running?

Thanks!

[BlackVCG]

If you're only getting a couple of shots and then it putters out, it's most likely a problem with your ASA. Do you have an on/off ASA or is it a standard screw-in bottomline ASA?

If it's an on/off, you might be screwing it in too far and the pin in the ASA that depresses the pin in the tank is going in too far and cutting off the flow. Screw in the on/off until you hear the gun gas up and then another 1/2 or so on the on/off knob and then leave it there and try shooting the gun.

The same could be happening with a standard ASA, but in this case the pin inside the ASA is too long and you can't adjust that so you have to adjust it by only screwing in the tank until it gasses up and then another 1/2 turn or so.

[lidocaine]

I have a CP direct mount ASA.
I believe the problem was indeed bolt stick.

I cracked open the gun, there was absolutely no shims in it,Thanks tunaman!
I had to put three in it before it started working, and it works pretty well now but once in a while it will start puttering out almost like a lvl 10 chuff and it stops firing and loses trigger compression.I have to regass it up and it shoots like normal again.Is this just the break in process of the carrier o ring? I had to have shot a good 500-600 hundred dry fires through it and about 100 real paintball through it so it should be semi broken in and the bolt stick should have stopped, especially with 3 shims..right?

By the way I have the gold spring installed and a one dot carrier installed, could this be choking it out? I tried a line and a dot and it started leaking, but couldnt find the 1 line ( have to look for it in my mega tool box) so I didnt even bother, threw the dot in there and it worked fine except for the occasional puttering ( happens anywhere between about 20-100 shots)

Thanks alot,Lidocaine

[xxkylexx]

Try adding another shim.

[Tunaman]

This is silly. Did you watch the L10 CD? If you cant get it going just send it here and I'll fix it. Don't guess if you don't know how to tune it. Take the shims out like it was. Too many shims will cause it to leak. You do have a HIGH PRESSURE REGULATOR on your tank right? Let me know.

[lidocaine]

Sorry tuna, I didnt mean to down you it's just I thought it came pretty much pre tuned.I went to the field ( an hours drive) and filled up the tanks, went to the chrony, and...nothing happened, me being the mag savvy person I am, and since mags are so popular with the tech ( not) I had to go home.Atleast I found a mad good pizza place.

I have 3 shims in currrently and it does not leak.There is an extremely slight leak that I cant find where its coming from but it's no biggie.
With no shims, it did not fire at all, with two it fired but stuck every few shots, with 3 shims, it is shooting well except for the occasional chuff and then it sticks and I have to regass it.
The order is indeed backing washer, then carrier o ring first, then shims, then powertube cap, correct?( Sounds dumb, but it could be something dumb)

I watched the level 10 cd, but honestly it helped me minimally.
I watched the youtube.com video on how to install it/tune it and that helped me immensely.

I am using an 850psi HP crossfire stubby tank, brand new.Had about 2-2.5k psi in it when it was shooting decent but still chuffed causing me to bleed out the air and re gas it up.It chuffed like mad under 1k psi which ive heard is supposed to do because mags are pressure hungry animals.

Should I try 4 shims tomorrow and then take it back to 3 if it starts leaking again?
What about the carrier, does it have anything to do with chuffing it out?
Its only a one dot carrier size so it might be pretty small.

Thank you very much, bear with me guys.

[lidocaine]

Is anyone out theya cuz its gettin harda and harda to breathe.

[lidocaine]

come on, anyone?2 days no help?

[rawbutter]

Sorry you're having so many problems. I'm sure you'll love the gun once everything is tuned correctly (and then you never had to touch it again).

You did check out the Level Ten guide, right? It's got pictures and everything.

http://www.automags.org/resource/level10/index.shtml

If I were you, I would start from scratch. That's what I did when I experienced problems with a used X-valve, and it turned out that I had the wrong carrier size. If you have an extremely slight leak coming from the bolt area, then it might be the carrier.

You're not increasing the velocity too far, are you? You should increase the velocity just until you can fire consistently.

[lidocaine]

Sorry you're having so many problems. I'm sure you'll love the gun once everything is tuned correctly (and then you never had to touch it again).

You did check out the Level Ten guide, right? It's got pictures and everything.

http://www.automags.org/resource/level10/index.shtml

If I were you, I would start from scratch. That's what I did when I experienced problems with a used X-valve, and it turned out that I had the wrong carrier size. If you have an extremely slight leak coming from the bolt area, then it might be the carrier.

You're not increasing the velocity too far, are you? You should increase the velocity just until you can fire consistently.

I increase the velocity until I reach field limit, 280 fps.
If it doesnt work out I will most likely just start from scratch with no shims and .5 carrier, then work my way up.
The leak I dont think is the carrier though, because it is a .5 carrier, which seems small for a Tac one anyway ( I think? )

Thanks

[Tunaman]

I increase the velocity until I reach field limit, 280 fps.
If it doesnt work out I will most likely just start from scratch with no shims and .5 carrier, then work my way up.
The leak I dont think is the carrier though, because it is a .5 carrier, which seems small for a Tac one anyway ( I think? )

Thanks

There is no such thing as a carrier "too small". It is solely dependent on the size of the orings. Grab another oring out of the L10 kit and start over. If you cant get it pleae just send it back and I'll re-tune it and get it right back to you.