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  • the_round_one
    Registered User
    • Mar 2008
    • 8

    #1

    my valve is leaking

    ive owned a mag for a few years now, but never learned how to work on them. everyone who did my repairs have moved away. i was wondering if anyone could help me with my problem and teach me how to fix it?
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    Ave Dominus Nox
    • May 2007
    • 555

    #2
    need more info
    where exactly is the leak
    is it comiong out the back of the valve-----turn down your velocity
    if its leaking out the barrel without the trigger pulled------replace powertube oring
    if it leaks while the trigger is held--------on/off top oring

    Toms tech video on the automag is in 9 pieces on youtube, its got all the fixes for leaks

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    • the_round_one
      Registered User
      • Mar 2008
      • 8

      #3
      not out of the back. i already fixed that. its down the barrel but we already replaced the outside carrier o-ring and the internal one inside the little cavity. it worked for a few hours but then went to down again. im running out of little o-rings. but when i replace them it works for awhile

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      • michbich
        machinist-biochemist
        • Jul 2007
        • 849

        #4
        Is the marker oilled properly?

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        • sunjess
          Registered User
          • Mar 2008
          • 62

          #5
          I spoke with someone from AGD on the phone today they said you only need 2 drops of oil though the asa per MONTH to lube all of the internals. Does that sound correct to you guys. Also wanted to mention that to the_round_one just incase he has not properly lubed his gun.

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          • michbich
            machinist-biochemist
            • Jul 2007
            • 849

            #6
            Originally posted by sunjess
            I spoke with someone from AGD on the phone today they said you only need 2 drops of oil though the asa per MONTH to lube all of the internals. Does that sound correct to you guys. Also wanted to mention that to the_round_one just incase he has not properly lubed his gun.
            I put a couple drops before the first game and a couple drops at the end of the day.

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            • 211
              Ave Dominus Nox
              • May 2007
              • 555

              #7
              from your reply I deduce that you have level 10, so try going down a carrier size

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              • Madcat_MK2
                Registered User
                • Feb 2008
                • 74

                #8
                Make sure you keep the same o-ring and only change carriers. You probably only need to go one size smaller and when sizing, dont oil the o-ring, try to keep it dry. I sized the oring before with oil and it was leaking as I was using too much oil and it gave me a false sense of the o-ring sealing. I leater learned on here to keep it dry when sizing, which has since fixed my prob.

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                • Ruler_Mark
                  AKAOG.ORG
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 2600

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Madcat_MK2
                  Make sure you keep the same o-ring and only change carriers. You probably only need to go one size smaller and when sizing, dont oil the o-ring, try to keep it dry. I sized the oring before with oil and it was leaking as I was using too much oil and it gave me a false sense of the o-ring sealing. I leater learned on here to keep it dry when sizing, which has since fixed my prob.

                  also you guna can leak after oiling just dry fire it a couple hundred times and you'll be set

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                  • Spider-TW
                    U R techno-literate!

                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3554

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sunjess
                    I spoke with someone from AGD on the phone today they said you only need 2 drops of oil though the asa per MONTH to lube all of the internals. Does that sound correct to you guys. Also wanted to mention that to the_round_one just incase he has not properly lubed his gun.
                    At least once a month. It's the air going through that dries it out, so count tank fills or cases of paint. 2 drops before each case of paint is my baseline. A classic with a level 7 bolt is less picky than an X-valve with a level 10, but that usually goes with the rate of fire also.

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                    • the_round_one
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 8

                      #11
                      sorry i have to use other peoples internet to reply. but yes i have a level 10. but when i put on a smaller carrier and keep the same o-ring it will work for a little then leak. ive tried a new dry o-ring and smaller carrier and the same thing happens. it will work for about a bag then it will leak again. and i only oil it with two drops every now and then so its not over oiled. i just dont know. i may end up selling it.

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                      • Spider-TW
                        U R techno-literate!

                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3554

                        #12
                        If you're sure it's leaking at the bolt, try a little bit of grease on the bolt tip (plunger?) where it sits on the oring (but not in the hole). If the leak doesn't change, it's not in the powertube oring. Check for scratches on the plunger tip and in the power tube where the carrier oring rides. Check those orings for scratches. Make sure your carriers are clean when you put orings on/in them.

                        (no coffee) -> "plunger"

                        Read the entire "Official level 10 problems thread" and you will be an expert.

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                        • athomas
                          Of course it works-its AGD
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 8039

                          #13
                          Hold the trigger in after you fire. After a couple of seconds, the residual leaking should stop. If it continues then your problem is not in the powertube section of the gun.

                          Make sure you remove all the powertube shims when checking leaks like this. Too many shims can cause leaking.
                          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                          • the_round_one
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 8

                            #14
                            when i pull the trigger it stops leaking. it just leaks like there is no tomm. ive tried oil, but not too much. ive replaced all the o-rings i can get to. then it works for a little then just leaks. last fix lasted me about a case then it just started to leak again. i just dont know but it is for sale on the other message board.

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                            • Sumthinwicked
                              team id psycho AO-CT
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 4292

                              #15
                              okie as dumb as it sounds there is a fat wassher looking oring in bewtween the 2 valve halves spin the front and back that apart and replace might help you can flip it sometimes its in backwards some leaks are fixed this way usually the leaks i get but i use lvl 7 only

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