Automag RT... Response Trigger?

[Spencer]

Put two and two together, RT is response trigger...

Does that mean what I think it works? 1 shot on pull 1 on release? That can't be right, how do you get these tourni legal?

[Beemer]

RT = Reactive trigger for the Mag. It has a return force on the trig. RT = response trig, one shot on pull one on release. Its not legal.

[Spencer]

lol ok, thanks for clearing that up..

But I heard that RT mags aren't tourni legal unless they are pneumatic, or electric..

[questionful]

RT is the color change above the on/off pin.

http://www.zdspb.com/media/tech/animations/rtemag2_6fps.gif

[Beemer]

lol ok, thanks for clearing that up..

But I heard that RT mags aren't tourni legal unless they are pneumatic, or electric..

Where did you hear that? It could be true or not depending on the tourny.

[Spencer]

Where did you hear that? It could be true or not depending on the tourny.

......... PBNation

I don't play tournis just want to know what they meant by that..

[cockerpunk]

well it wouldn't be PSP legal, but it would be NPPL legal.

[dstud2000]

Throw a ULT in it and just 1 shim, I don't see why that wouldn't pass as tourney legal, pretty much just a super light trigger pull with little to no reactivity. Or if you have an adjustable tank lower your input down to about 600 to 700 psi, there shouldn't be enough pressure to cause reactivity that low.

[Spencer]

what exactly does reactivity do?

And I do plan on pneumagging, does it matter wether I have a ule kit installed or not? I mean is it bad to use a ule trigger kit with a pneumag?

[longi]

It doesn't matter which on/off pin you use, all will work. You can also use the Classic valve if you have one! The Classic valve works extrmely well too.

[questionful]

what exactly does reactivity do?

Look at the animation I posted.

http://www.zdspb.com/media/tech/ani...temag2_6fps.gif

When you put your finger on the trigger, it takes a certain amount of force to get it to pull. So you apply x amount of force to the trigger. The gun fires, and the pressure in the dump chamber goes from about 500 or so to about 0. Well, it just so happens the regulator spring, no longer counteracted by dump chamber pressure, is now free to shoot the piston forward and let full pressure input into the dump chamber. So the full pressure input goes in, past the regulator, and guess what, it hits the top of your on/off pin. Depending on how high that pressure is (your tank's output), that force might be about 2x the force your finger is putting on the trigger. This results in the trigger pushing your finger back. I highly recommend you stare at that animation for a while.

[Spencer]

Look at the animation I posted.

http://www.zdspb.com/media/tech/ani...temag2_6fps.gif

When you put your finger on the trigger, it takes a certain amount of force to get it to pull. So you apply x amount of force to the trigger. The gun fires, and the pressure in the dump chamber goes from about 500 or so to about 0. Well, it just so happens the regulator spring, no longer counteracted by dump chamber pressure, is now free to shoot the piston forward and let full pressure input into the dump chamber. So the full pressure input goes in, past the regulator, and guess what, it hits the top of your on/off pin. Depending on how high that pressure is (your tank's output), that force might be about 2x the force your finger is putting on the trigger. This results in the trigger pushing your finger back. I highly recommend you stare at that animation for a while.

lol I have looked at it and I understand that part,

but when I read this

Throw a ULT in it and just 1 shim, I don't see why that wouldn't pass as tourney legal, pretty much just a super light trigger pull with little to no reactivity. Or if you have an adjustable tank lower your input down to about 600 to 700 psi, there shouldn't be enough pressure to cause reactivity that low.

I got confused, why would reactivity be illegal?

[211]

RT can be considered trigger bounce, which isnt tourny legal