Tac 1?

[will123]

Hi, I'm new to paintball and im looking to by my first maker. I'm interested in the longbow setup with the agd tac 1. My problem is I can't find any specific information on the tac 1 and like i said im new to the whole paintball scene. So heres what I need to know.

1. Whats better, a mechanical or electric marker?

2. How fast does the tac 1 fire?

3. Does it have a semi auto single shot option.

4. Can I mount an rap4 underbarrel grenade launcher on it.

5.Is the tac 1 a decent gun.

I want to buy a gun that will last while and i dont want a cheap gun. The reveiws ive read say its great and give details on why but i dont understand all of them.

Lastly, I came across the rap site and was looking at their guns. Some of their guns are 4k and up. Are these guns any better that the average paintball gun? Ex: The $3000 dollar m60. Is it really that good? Does it have a rediculous rate of fire? Or is it just expensive cause its a replica? Does it ofer any real advantage.

Thanks to all that can help and also Im more interested in woodsball than speedball.

[L-Dee]

In my opinion, a mechanical marker is better than an electro one, since less things tend to break
In semi mode, the tac one can fire as fast as your finger can pull the trigger ;-)
I think that a stock Tac One is a semi
On a tac one with picatinny rails, you can mount anything with female picatinny adaptors.. so I think the RAP4 grenade laucher will fit
The Tac one is an excellent gun... I am currently searching one... ;-)

For the Rap gung, a lot of people call them Crap4... it says everything lol... they are wonderful replicas.... but in my opinion they do not worth more than 500 buck... maybe less...

Sorry for my english I'm from quebec ;-)

[will123]

In my opinion, a mechanical marker is better than an electro one, since less things tend to break
In semi mode, the tac one can fire as fast as your finger can pull the trigger ;-)
I think that a stock Tac One is a semi
On a tac one with picatinny rails, you can mount anything with female picatinny adaptors.. so I think the RAP4 grenade laucher will fit
The Tac one is an excellent gun... I am currently searching one... ;-)

For the Rap gung, a lot of people call them Crap4... it says everything lol... they are wonderful replicas.... but in my opinion they do not worth more than 500 buck... maybe less...

Sorry for my english I'm from quebec ;-)

So crap4 are just replicas basically and offer no real advantage.

When you say picatinny rails what do you mean, do they come stock on the tac 1

Thanks much.

[Danterwhoo]

yes they are, the picatinny rails are the cut out blocks on the body of the gun they are all over the gun. don't get the longbow it doesn't do anything except take your money! Tac one buy itself is exceptional

[will123]

yes they are, the picatinny rails are the cut out blocks on the body of the gun they are all over the gun. don't get the longbow it doesn't do anything except take your money! Tac one buy itself is exceptional

Lol that was funny. Thanks again for the info. I've heard mixedd reveiws about the longbow. Also I have a friend that used to paintball professionally and he said its accuacy is unmached but that a tippman with a flatline would bet it out in range.

Edit: WHat is RT?. Is it somthing to do with pressure?

[michbich]

Lol that was funny. Thanks again for the info. I've heard mixedd reveiws about the longbow. Also I have a friend that used to paintball professionally and he said its accuacy is unmached but that a tippman with a flatline would bet it out in range.

Edit: WHat is RT?. Is it somthing to do with pressure?

For AGD products, RT means "reactive trigger".

After a shot is fired, air pressure pushes resets the trigger. So if you sweetspot the trigger, it basicly goes full auto while still being a semi.

[will123]

For AGD products, RT means "reactive trigger".

After a shot is fired, air pressure pushes resets the trigger. So if you sweetspot the trigger, it basicly goes full auto while still being a semi.

Thanks again. That answers all my questions for now. I'm still not sure how id attach an under barrel grenade launcher to this though.

edit: what is a ule trigger pull kit.

[dark blade]

Well since people are kind of dancing around the answers I will answer them straight out

1.) What's better electro or mech?
A) either one is good... in the case of mech vs electro I would go electro but since you are comparing a tac 1 to electros I would go tac 1... reason being they are nearly incapable of chopping and can achieve a high rate of fire like electros but don't have circuits to break or batteries to die

2.) How fast is the tac1?
A) the tac one is an amazingly fast gun and when you get the rt effect going (wich you need an adjustable tank for in order to get the input pressure to near 1000) you can hit 30bps easiy (might need more than 1000 but has been done before)

3.) Does the tac 1 have semi auto?
A) the tac 1 only has semi auto... some say it would have full auto but this is only the rt effect in which the trigger atcually resets before you pull it again so it technically is semi auto still

4.) Can I mount an underbarrel grenade launcher on it?
A)no ... not under the barrel at least. It would be possible using the rails but would either be on the top of your marker in front of the feednck or at a 60* angle on the back half of your gun

5.)is the tac one a good gun?
A) the tac 1 is an amazing gun, I have an electro/mechanical tac 1 known as an e-tac and it is an absolutly awesome gun, however... the stock tac 1 is still amazing never the less

And as far as the m60 itis all for look... the tac 1 will fire almost garanteed fire faster, more accurate, more consistanly, and never break (assuming the m60 has electronics inside of it to make it fast)

I 100% reccommend the tac 1... its a great beginner gun and its a great professional/veteran gun

Its good for people who just play every once in a while and for those who shoot every weekend... if you have the money I say buy it

I promise you won't regret it

If you have any more questions feel free to send me a pm and I will answer them within 15 minutes (90% of the time) unless im sleeping or extremely busy using my e-tac :-P

[Sumthinwicked]

in my use the longbow is my primary marker +a gun btw worth it in my eyes but i would change out the frame to a single trigger and the xvalve to a regular A>I>R valve sell them to make about 250 back off the regular price after buying the valve and frame but its a great base marker (the tacone) and i have sold 4 longbows there not hard to resell with a really long barrel that will never break down on you .....quality speaks for itself

[will123]

Those last two responses are what i was looking for.Ill take you up on that offer darkblade

[TeamJackal37]

Here the Tac One http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/in...&categoryID=81

eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/AGD-Tac-One-w-UL...QQcmdZViewItem

[will123]

is there any way to take this mag and make it one pull one ball, to get rid of the rt effect? thanks to all that can help.

[Splatu]

[SIZE=2]I've had a Tac one since they first came out. It's the last gun I'll ever need![/SIZE] I love it, when tuned right it just rips!

[frans42000]

is there any way to take this mag and make it one pull one ball, to get rid of the rt effect? thanks to all that can help.

The Automag Tac-1 is ONLY 1 pull, 1 ball. It is not electronic, it has no switch to flip to do anything other than semi automatic.

The term "reactive trigger" is the exact same thing as an "RT".

What it does, is use full input air pressure (not watered down through the regulator for the 300 feet per second shots) to reset the trigger back to the ready-to-fire position.

You pull the trigger.

One paintball shoots.

The air pressure fights against your finger to push the trigger back to the ready-to-fire position. This is faster than you subconsciously think to yourself "ok, the gun shot, now lets relax my finger and do it again". It is a good thing. It makes it easier to fire faster becuaes the gun resets your finger for you. But you only shoot 1 ball at a time.

It can be made to shoot full auto by a technique called "sweetspotting". Its not a real function of the automag design, but it works.

You squeeze the trigger, just enough, and hold it, that the Reactive Trigger (RT) will bounce off your finger tip to fire continuously. It is something that you, the owner, have to make the gun do, it does not happen by itself. Its a technique, like juggling.

This is not to be confused with something called a "response trigger" that shoots a ball when you pull on it, and another when you let go of it.

OK a regular Automag has one of these...

http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=337&categoryID=10

And the Tac-1 changes the body, not the guts that do the shooting, just the body, to this...

http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=369&categoryID=81

And then to make a Longbow out of it, they take a Tac-1 and add this,

http://www.specialopspaintball.com/shop/product_detail.asp?SKU=200+0003&BRAND=SPECIAL%20OPS

So all a longbow gets you is a cosmetic shroud, a long barrel, a spring loaded tube paintball loader, and a stock.

The longbow is a bit of a gimmik. The shroud does nothing but make it look different, the stock means you need a pack to carry your air tank on but some people like stocks, and the tube magazine is ALOT harder to reload than a normal 200 round paintball hopper. It does make it harder to hit the gun with paint because from the front there is no hopper to hit but most paintball hits are on your shoulders anyway.

The barrel probably does help with accuracy, but not that much. That is why rate of fire is usually preferred to sniper fire. It is just too hard to actually get the first shot to hit. Oh, you will get near him, but most likely miss. Second and third shots are usually the hits.

[Spider-TW]

Will, read the Paintball Talk Sticky for lots of good answers.

As far as raps and grenade launchers go, you should try to decide how much mil-sim you are willing to pay for versus actual paintball machine. I like mil-sim stuff, but I won't pay for just looks and I try not carry anything that doesn't help put paint down range. Light, tight, and camo are my only mil-sim guidelines.

Also, figure out where and who you will play with and how much paint you want to shoot. If you are playing at a mixed rec-ball field and have speed ball friends, you will have more reason to have some electro capability. However, for a marker that you have to tell your children "no, I get to play with it today", there's no substitute for a well trimmed mag and if you want it electro fast you can make it that way.