emag software issue

[dark blade]

Ok I am running xmod beta 1.8 and my emag just started acting extremely funny... it skips menus and numbers when I am setting things

For example, when I set dwell or fix it will go 10, 11, 12, 20, 23, 24, 28, 30, 5, 6, 11, 16

Its just everywhere... it won't read right... and same with the modes

When I scroll through modes the order is suppose to be semi, release, burst, full, nxl, psp, mill, hyper, pr-t

But it scrolls like this... semi, burst, full, hyper, burst, mill, pr-t, semi, full, nxl, psp, hyper, burst, mill

Its just random

Is this a battery being almost dead issue? Or is it actual software problems and any ideas on how to fix it?

[Chris Nearchos]

could be a number of things

it actually could be a number of things.

-Trigger magnet is interfering...back it out and try

-board not sitting correctly... remove the board and clean up the grounding power area (where the board screw goes in)

-board dying...buy a new one

-bad flash....flash it again

-Bad noid ... buy a new one

- etc


so many differnt things could be causing it. but i dont think a bad battery would involved with this.
-Chris

[dark blade]

ok well i just checked the wiring of the solenoid and it isnt wired correctly which is surprising because it just came back from modmymag

they just flashed it to 1.8 beta


also... the board can be moved around a bit when i turn the power off and use my fingers... idk if this is it but when i move it around it changes which modes or numbers it skips

I thnk its the board but i dont know why its doing it and it just occured today

As the night has gone on it has lessened so i am completely confused. someone please help

[Chris Nearchos]

hmm

well, solder the noid correctly to start off.

secondly, remove the board from the grip. clean the screw mount area nice and good. put the board back in. tighten it nice and snug.....be carefull to not crack the board. But that would take alot of over tighting to do that.




or have it sent right back to modmymag and have him fix it ....thats if its his fault.


but i still dont understand why the noid would be in backwards (wiring).

-chris

[dark blade]

well, solder the noid correctly to start off.

secondly, remove the board from the grip. clean the screw mount area nice and good. put the board back in. tighten it nice and snug.....be carefull to not crack the board. But that would take alot of over tighting to do that.




or have it sent right back to modmymag and have him fix it ....thats if its his fault.


but i still dont understand why the noid would be in backwards (wiring).

-chris

same here... i would have thought he would have checked that if he installed new software

[Chris Nearchos]

??

my uderstanding it is a full work over on the lowers ...(or the whole gun). from the programming, electronics, to the mechanical side of the setup. but i guess he only looks at the programming and sear adjustment.


But even so....why was the noid in backwards from the factory?



but yea, get back in touch with him and see if he can work with you to get things right. he is a good guy with everything i have done transaction wise with him.


-Chris

[Looper]

First let me start off saying I have nothing against you Dark Blade, or anyone here on AO. Welcome to the Mag Community it's a great place to be and a great place to get any kind of help you can possible need; for what ever ails you or your marker.

they just flashed it to 1.8 beta

Too bad you did not buy the Programmer from LorneCash, he work really hard on the code and my guess is, he got nothing from your marker being upgraded. I could be wrong, as I do not know the whole story, but it sure doesn't look good. If you did have the programmer you could easily reflash your chip; if that is the problem.

Maybe you should send a PM to LorneCash and let him know your having issues with his software. Nawww thats probably not a good idea... (that was sarcasm, please take it as such)

Sounds like a bad ground if your looking for free support to go with your half price firmware upgrade, but you should go back to the person that performed the work for the help you are looking for, since you already paid for it.

I am only reading what I'm seeing; I may not have the whole story and would gladly recant this rant and apologize to all parties, if I am proving other wise.

But even so....why was the noid in backwards from the factory?

Of the 4 Emag Lowers I own, including my XMag, all of them came wired incorrectly. I did not buy these new but they all had AGD software on them when I got them so I'd be really surprised if someone switched the connection to the solenoid. My guess; it's a toss of the coin on how the "Factory" wired them up.

A incorrectly wired solenoid is not the end of the world... You just won't be getting the higher BPS with out some issues. It will not cause the issues that are listed here and sounds more like a bad ground than anything else.

[dark blade]

yes this is true that he probably did not benefit through the transaction... however, this is the case with any sale that goes down on any site.

Even here when you sell a marker, AGD benefits from whoever originally bought those parts but then the parts can be resold to whoever else however many times and AGD sees none of that money. Just like the software, someone buys the programmer and he gets the profit but the person who bought it can resell the "software" as many times to whoever and the programmer owner sees nothing

Its called capitalism where you buy low and sell high to move up and make as much as you can. If this were not the case i would fully understand your point... however, in order for your point to never be hypocritical you can never sell anything off any site or buy anything off any site and must buy new from manufacture for the rest of your life. Otherwise you are simply going against yourself and no one will ever listen to what you say


Other than that thanks for the welcome to the mag community. and thanks for trying to help

[dark blade]

modmymag seems to be down at the moment... or its just my computer

does mark have a username here i can PM him on? or does anyone know his email so i can just send him a message that way?

[Chris Nearchos]

there you go

Ruler_Mark is his AO name.

http://www.automags.org/forums/member.php?u=33809

but honestly, lets keep the fight about the software thing alone. that is between AGD, Mark, and LorneCash.

none of us here have any right to start fighting about it. and i know your just trying to look out for LorneCash and his awsomness with the great program....but it is his problem to be looking at.

but on one note, i do have to admit that LorneCash is a bit slow with getting things done. took a month for me to get my programmer and now he wont even talk to me about buying the source code. Which i really do need to look at so i can tune a new E/X-mag modification before i release it. So i can see why newer people would want to use modmymag instead of waiting forever for a programmer....exspecially when they are paying good money for it.


but again, lets not fight about it here. the fellow has some very serious problems going on with his emag. i rather help get it fixed now before someone loses an eye or even worse do to malfunctioning Emag. I want to help keep the mags known as a safe marker.





**** if you do not get ahold of mark and get him to fix it, do the following. DO NOT play with the gun till this is fixed.

1) remove the board.
2) Clean the ground mount (where the screw holding the board goes in)
3) if there is anno on it, sand it away. Then clean the grip frame really good to get all the sanding out.
4) put the board back in and screw it snug.
5) see if it working correctly then.



-Chris

[dark blade]

thanks... and yes lets not fight

but as one last note, mark never charges for his flash jobs... seeing as the software is free and its the actually "Flasher device" that you pay for. I feel no one is getting cheated in this


however, i will try everything stated tomarow and will report back with details

[LorneCash]

I'm getting really sick of this crap! Flashing my software to people who never bought a programmer is stealing from me.

Quotes from the geniuses:

...AGD benefits from whoever originally bought those parts but then the parts can be resold to whoever else however many times and AGD sees none of that money. Just like the software, someone buys the programmer and he gets the profit but the person who bought it can resell the "software" as many times to whoever and the programmer owner sees nothing

Its called capitalism where you buy low and sell high to move up and make as much as you can. ...you can never sell anything off any site or buy anything off any site and must buy new from manufacture for the rest of your life.

seeing as the software is free and its the actually "Flasher device" that you pay for. I feel no one is getting cheated in this

I'm glad that's how you justify it... I personally hope your gun never works again. Serves you right. Apparently you never read my license agreement because it says you have to own a programmer as you right you use the software. I know that there will always be <insert expletive of your choice> in this world but don't pretend that you're doing something ok.

Oh yea and you're clearly an econimist with all your buy low sell high advice... Here's the difference... you stole software... when you sell a gun on ebay you don't have the gun anymore, not the case with software. Software you can steal over and over again every time you copy it it costs me $120. If it were up to me I'd have you Everyone flashing my software permanently banned from AO.

[seekandestroy78]

why would you sell a programmer, then go "ok now don't go using this thing i just sold you for $100+"

[BigEvil]

why would you sell a programmer, then go "ok now don't go using this thing i just sold you for $100+"

Read the license agreement.

[MANN]

why would you sell a programmer, then go "ok now don't go using this thing i just sold you for $100+"

I would assume that the problem is that people are selling the "service".