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  • 211
    Ave Dominus Nox
    • May 2007
    • 555

    #1

    I need help with a board install

    SO I bought a Universal Tboard from Scenario Dreams for my Emag (which had no board when I got it) I paid the extra for the install, and off to Cal my Emag goes.
    Damon (one of the best guys you could ever deal with) had never worked with an Emag before. So after a few glitches he thought he got it working right, by replacing the HES with a reed switch. When I got it back the reed switch is not going to work. It will flutter if the trigger is pulled back very slowly, but not enough to get the noid to cycle. So back to Cal it goes.
    Now all this is taking place while Scenario DReams is moving to Texas, so Damon is a bit preoccupied. After much trying on his part, I got my Emag back but it isnt working

    Im not very good at the electronic end of a paintball gun, even less with an Emag which this is my first, So Im looking for someone who can finish the install and troubleshoot my mag

    Who should I talk to?
  • divil
    Registered User
    • Jun 2005
    • 46

    #2
    Originally posted by 211
    SO I bought a Universal Tboard from Scenario Dreams for my Emag (which had no board when I got it) I paid the extra for the install, and off to Cal my Emag goes.
    Damon (one of the best guys you could ever deal with) had never worked with an Emag before. So after a few glitches he thought he got it working right, by replacing the HES with a reed switch. When I got it back the reed switch is not going to work. It will flutter if the trigger is pulled back very slowly, but not enough to get the noid to cycle. So back to Cal it goes.
    Now all this is taking place while Scenario DReams is moving to Texas, so Damon is a bit preoccupied. After much trying on his part, I got my Emag back but it isnt working

    Im not very good at the electronic end of a paintball gun, even less with an Emag which this is my first, So Im looking for someone who can finish the install and troubleshoot my mag

    Who should I talk to?
    i just put one in my xmag, because my didnt have a board in it. the universal t-board works great. just to let you know i didnt try to use eyes. i don't understand why he couldn't get it to work.

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    • p8ntbal4me
      No more UTBs!
      • Aug 2003
      • 2560

      #3
      Ive got one in my E-Mag as well,... I havent had any problems with it.

      ~ P8nt
      _______________________
      Jai "P8ntbal4me" Menard

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      • divil
        Registered User
        • Jun 2005
        • 46

        #4
        Originally posted by p8ntbal4me
        Ive got one in my E-Mag as well,... I havent had any problems with it.

        ~ P8nt
        did you install the eyes?

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        • flyingpootang
          Magtechian with X disease

          • Dec 2005
          • 2276

          #5
          Don't use a reed switch the stock will work fine. First verify which wiring harness you have at scenario dreams: http://scenariodreams.com/manuals/universal_install.htm .Using example "B" from Scenario Dreams, connect the red (HES) wire to the + side of the trigger (UTB) orange, black (HES) wire to the - side of the trigger (UTB) orange, yellow (HES) to the black + 5 volt out (UTB).
          I posted a Mini Morlock install manual you can use it for reference or pm me for help. http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=193084

          ***NOTE*** If your marker will not fire swap the 2 orange wires (UTB) that connect the trigger + & -

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          • flyingpootang
            Magtechian with X disease

            • Dec 2005
            • 2276

            #6
            Originally posted by divil
            did you install the eyes?
            Eyes are not needed with the L10 bolt. I have 5 E/X mags with out eyes and still haven't chopped yet....

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            • 211
              Ave Dominus Nox
              • May 2007
              • 555

              #7
              So Im comparing my Tboard to the examples
              Ive got wiring harness type A
              theres a large capacitor wired into the power in and the ground (black and black) is it necessary?
              The black 5v out has been removed. Is there any other place I can tap into to get the voltage (like the led, or the membrane, or the eye)?
              I will be installing an eye, bounce beam in the bottom of the breech, but thats going to have to wait until I get the electronics up and going.

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              • flyingpootang
                Magtechian with X disease

                • Dec 2005
                • 2276

                #8
                Originally posted by 211
                So Im comparing my Tboard to the examples
                Ive got wiring harness type A
                theres a large capacitor wired into the power in and the ground (black and black) is it necessary?
                The black 5v out has been removed. Is there any other place I can tap into to get the voltage (like the led, or the membrane, or the eye)?
                I will be installing an eye, bounce beam in the bottom of the breech, but thats going to have to wait until I get the electronics up and going.
                (1) You need the large capacitor to store enough energy for your solenoid to work properly.
                (2) Use a multimeter to test the EP power (UTB) red, the + eye (UTB) blue, or the common membrane (UTB) yellow for 5 volts at rest to connect to the HES (AGD)orange
                (3) It's up to you on the eyes. Check with LUKE for milling the rail/installing the eyes or KC for a ACE board conversion.....

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                • 211
                  Ave Dominus Nox
                  • May 2007
                  • 555

                  #9
                  As soon as I figure out where I put the HES, Ill try wiring it up

                  Thanks

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                  • p8ntbal4me
                    No more UTBs!
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 2560

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 211
                    So Im comparing my Tboard to the examples
                    Ive got wiring harness type A
                    theres a large capacitor wired into the power in and the ground (black and black) is it necessary?
                    The black 5v out has been removed. Is there any other place I can tap into to get the voltage (like the led, or the membrane, or the eye)?
                    I will be installing an eye, bounce beam in the bottom of the breech, but thats going to have to wait until I get the electronics up and going.

                    What do you mean the black 5volt has been removed?

                    If you dont have the wire that you need,.. stop.

                    Go to the SD home page and spend the $12 for a new harness.

                    Tapping into other components may not allow you to use the other ones.

                    And the worst part of trying to splice into other power sources,... if you fry the board your warrenty is void.

                    I did up the wire diagrams found on the SD home page,.. if you have some questions,.. post em up and we can help!

                    ~ P8nt
                    _______________________
                    Jai "P8ntbal4me" Menard

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                    • flyingpootang
                      Magtechian with X disease

                      • Dec 2005
                      • 2276

                      #11
                      If the black 5v is missing you can remove one of the wires that isn't being utalized and replace it into the missing position. As far as frying the board as long as the 5volt source isn't being used or shared by something that draws a lot of current I wouldn't worry about cooking it...
                      Last edited by flyingpootang; 07-09-2008, 03:22 PM.

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                      • 211
                        Ave Dominus Nox
                        • May 2007
                        • 555

                        #12
                        the 5v wire had been clipped flush with the harness
                        I was able to get the small clip out of the harness, and think I can reattach a new wire to it, as soon as my new HES arrives from AGD, or my old one resurfaces (which will happen the day after the replacement shows up Im sure)

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                        • 211
                          Ave Dominus Nox
                          • May 2007
                          • 555

                          #13
                          IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!
                          turns out that the Red and Yellow wires are reversed, and the magnet in the trigger needed to be flipped, but it works. Im going to give it a hard workout this Saturday and see how it holds up

                          Thanks for the help everyone.

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