classic valve rt mod?

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  • peartree
    the universe is a machine
    • Jul 2008
    • 106

    #1

    classic valve rt mod?

    is there a way to turn the classic valve reactive?
  • mostpeople
    Registered User
    • Mar 2007
    • 1680

    #2
    Ive heard something about the ULT mod..

    but its complicated I think


    short answer, no.. you should however be able to pick up an RT valve relatively cheaply if you sell the classic valve.

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    • peartree
      the universe is a machine
      • Jul 2008
      • 106

      #3
      but if the on off pin is the only difference in the two valves (?) then why can you not just switch in the rt pin in order to go reactive??

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      • mostpeople
        Registered User
        • Mar 2007
        • 1680

        #4
        The on off is not the only difference, thats the key

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        • mostpeople
          Registered User
          • Mar 2007
          • 1680

          #5




          Notice the difference in construction -- they are not the same

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          • Runamok
            http://www.automags.org/fo
            • Oct 2004
            • 866

            #6
            I've toyed with the same idea, but the reg. valve pin is the difference between the two valves. The reactive valve is machined different to take the spring pack type pin. And I believe that other small changes such as a bleed off vent hole were designed into the reactive valve. Best bet is to sell or trade the classic and look for a RT Pro valve. then add a level 10 bolt and a ULT trigger. This properly tuned will give you a screaming fast and light trigger pull. The conclusion I reached was that it may be able to mod the classic but not cost effective. I've also put an RT on/off in a classic and it made no real difference.
            I took the road least traveled...now where the hell am I ?

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            • damajor
              What Happend!
              • Aug 2008
              • 53

              #7
              I have a retro valve, flatline, and intelliframe...with this alone, can I make the gun screaming fast...or do I also need the ULT to do this?

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              • athomas
                Of course it works-its AGD
                • Jan 2002
                • 8039

                #8
                The top speed of a retro valve is faster with a retro on-off than with the ULT. The ULT can make it easier to pull the trigger fast for some people, but a high input pressure combined with the proper setup can give you really fast reactive performance on a retro on-off assembly.
                Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                • damajor
                  What Happend!
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 53

                  #9
                  I'm new to mags...what do you mean by retro with on/off?

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                  • damajor
                    What Happend!
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 53

                    #10
                    duh...I get it now :sleeping

                    Will modifying the trigger rod length help?

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                    • athomas
                      Of course it works-its AGD
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 8039

                      #11
                      No, modifying the trigger rod length does not help. It only changes where the trigger makes contact. It doesn't change the actual pull. Changing the trigger rod length can cause issues if done incorrectly. Typically you want the trigger almost touching the trigger rod when gassed up.

                      One thing you can do to make a nice crisp trigger feel, is to shim the side of the trigger. It removes any side to side movement and provides a more positive feel with less wasted energy.
                      Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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