all you cocker dudes

[Smoothice]

( 1 out of 5 balls rolled out after sizing it )

Thats not too bad.

Honestly if you are going to play pump then you will want to have the best paint possible. A paint that is consistently the same size, round, and brittle.

With a pump you may only get one shot so it needs to count.

But I look forward to your double detent

[FeWolf]

cockerTEch good site for cocker info and video

[NU_METAL]

cockerTEch good site for cocker info and video

thanks for the link , great site for cocker specs

[Smoothice]

cockerTEch good site for cocker info and video

this is cocker tech http://www.cockertech.com/index.php


both great sites.

[NU_METAL]

update
if your interested go to the top
enjoy

[PhoenixWolf]

Nice bit of work there. That said, closed bolt is effectively dead in the industry for many, many reasons. Lack of detents, and performance problems resulting from the bolt defaulting to the closed non-feeding position. The bolt must always return to the ready position as quickly as possible to prepare for the next shot, and will always spend most of its time in this position. When you start trying to get very high performance closed bolts, you run into trouble because the default state is a non-feeding state and past a certain point, you will always get a blender.

[NU_METAL]

Nice bit of work there. That said, closed bolt is effectively dead in the industry for many, many reasons. Lack of detents, and performance problems resulting from the bolt defaulting to the closed non-feeding position. The bolt must always return to the ready position as quickly as possible to prepare for the next shot, and will always spend most of its time in this position. When you start trying to get very high performance closed bolts, you run into trouble because the default state is a non-feeding state and past a certain point, you will always get a blender.

i couldn't agree more ,ive been working on markers /playing w/ markers for many years & i never really cared for WGP autocockers (especialy when i e-bladed them trying to uncap & raise BPS , bla bla bla ,) just one big pain in the hinny ,as far as im concerned but i Love the way this one performe's w/ this CCM pump kit on it ,smooth,accurate,and now no roll outs :)
thiers no better feeling then taking out a great player w/a fast BPS marker than w/ one shot from this bad boy

[punkncat]

Nice bit of work there. That said, closed bolt is effectively dead in the industry for many, many reasons. Lack of detents, and performance problems resulting from the bolt defaulting to the closed non-feeding position. The bolt must always return to the ready position as quickly as possible to prepare for the next shot, and will always spend most of its time in this position. When you start trying to get very high performance closed bolts, you run into trouble because the default state is a non-feeding state and past a certain point, you will always get a blender.

What level of performance are you talking about?

There is certainly no issue going to come from 13.3 or 15 BPS that will cause a properly set up cocker to start chopping paint simply because it is closed bolt. As a matter of fact that (BPS) threshold is quite a bit higher than that. With the addition of QEV's it gets even better.

The only issue that I know that causes cocker to chop is a problem on mechanical ones and caused solely by short stroking the trigger. Eblades with a correct bolt open time matched to the loader will not experience that problem at all. Any marker, open or closed cycling at high speed with an insufficent "BIP" delay can and will have the same symptom without some mitigating circumstance, like eyes.
The only other "issue" would actually be a barrel break from sizing the bore too small.

[NU_METAL]

What level of performance are you talking about?

There is certainly no issue going to come from 13.3 or 15 BPS that will cause a properly set up cocker to start chopping paint simply because it is closed bolt. As a matter of fact that (BPS) threshold is quite a bit higher than that. With the addition of QEV's it gets even better.

The only issue that I know that causes cocker to chop is a problem on mechanical ones and caused solely by short stroking the trigger. Eblades with a correct bolt open time matched to the loader will not experience that problem at all. Any marker, open or closed cycling at high speed with an insufficent "BIP" delay can and will have the same symptom without some mitigating circumstance, like eyes.
The only other "issue" would actually be a barrel break from sizing the bore too small.

punk
from what Ive read about you ( lurked the threads ) especially when it comes to cockers '
your the "man" or @ least one of um .In MHO i think that mags and cockers are the Mustangs & camaro's (muscle cars ) of the paintball world , i just never got that great w/ um
now that's not to say that their not capable of Greatness because ive witnessed cockers @ just "holy good mother of god " performance ,accuracy ,the whole nine yards
i just never had the patience for um ,so now i got a simplified one (tech & tune ) wise
in other words ,...i will always respect & admire many brands ,im just a maggot @ heart

[punkncat]

punk
from what Ive read about you ( lurked the threads ) especially when it comes to cockers '
your the "man" or @ least one of um .

Well, thank you for the complement. I don't know about being the "man" but I know my way around a cocker pretty well. There are a lot of myths and misconceptions about closed bolt markers. Some of it is infamiliarity, some of it downright BS. Cockers do have a lower physical ROF limit that some other markers simply due to the cycling mass. A lot of the reason that halfblock mods, delrin bolts, QEV's, etc. came to be a part of many "high end" cockers. That limit is well beyond what is needed in any game anywhere for anything aside from wow factor at the chrono station.
But to say that a cocker goes blender just because it is closed bolt, well I think that should be filed right beside the shoot farther thing. Things like that upset my gnomes.