Emag still having issues.

[tarthal]

So I got my parts from Tuna. I replaced the On/off and put in the quad Oring instead of the normal oring it had before. And this ON/Off i can actually take apart which I could not take the old one apart. I also replaced the Regulator Valve pin Assembly. I changed the Spring in my Myth reg from 650 to the 850 hp spring. Only thing I havent taken apart is the back area where the emag logo is. I dont have any grease to put in other then Dye slick lube and I doubt normal mag oil would work.....

So the issue iam now having is when in electric mode. When iam firing fast at high rates of fire every couple of balls one drops off really badly. Half the distance of the rest. Noticed when Dry firing that it chuffs alot or the bolt doesnt seem to do a full cycle. Iam still using a lvl 7 and the velocity is at max cause i was trying to install a lvl 10. But decide to make sure everything works correctly before adding to the gun. While in Mech mode the gun seems to fire perfect. THe sound iam hearing actually sounds like the sound of the gun runing out of air. But it was doing it when the take was fill the max.

So any Ideas? Iam really hoping its not the tank/reg cause I really dont want to buy another tank thats more then 850 Psi just for this gun.

[Spider-TW]

If you haven't taken the reg piston out, you really should. Oil doesn't flow to that oring real well and old oil can make it sticky and sluggish. When you clean the piston and oring, clean the inside of the reg as well. Oil the oring. Grease is mainly to keep the springs from rusting since they can pickup wet air through the adjuster. You can leave the old grease on the springs if it isn't full of grit or sticky. You have to have a happy reg piston to keep your velocity consistent.

[tarthal]

Well gona get my tank filled tommorow. Went ahead and took out the piston and cleaned of the think layers of grease and replaced the oring. Lubed it with some mag lube and droped it back in. Seems a little ruff going in and out. but nothing hard. Didnt remove the grease of the springs they didnt have any dirt or anything in them. Hopefully this well get the gun up and runing better. Tho you were saying this should help it being consistent. Dont know if the issue iam having is it being consistent when its like 1 in every 3 or 4 shots that has major drop off then its back to firing pretty good then drops again. And only happens at high rates of fire.

[Spider-TW]

It can happen with a sticky reg, and old used ones are easy candidates.

On the other hand, there have been a few people lately that have had on/off asa's that they could turn too far in so that the asa was restricting the air flow. That would be a consistent shoot down though, as opposed to erratic drop off.

[BigEvil]

What software are you using? This is an example of what can happen when the tank cannot keep up with the ROF.

If you are using Xmod, lower the ROF to 15, and set the dwell between 15 and 20.

If the gun works on these settings let me know and I can tell you how to tune it to get a better ROF.

[Dend78]

What software are you using? This is an example of what can happen when the tank cannot keep up with the ROF.

If you are using Xmod, lower the ROF to 15, and set the dwell between 15 and 20.

If the gun works on these settings let me know and I can tell you how to tune it to get a better ROF.

wouldnt you notice that same shootdown in the mech mode though, if it were tank related?

[tarthal]

hehe software is AGD 1.31.

And dont think iam shooting anywhere near as fast in mech mode as I am in Electric.

[Dend78]

that would make sense then what tank and reg are u using?

[BigEvil]

wouldnt you notice that same shootdown in the mech mode though, if it were tank related?

You probably couldnt shoot that fast in mech. However if the tank cant keep up or if there is an air restriction it will act like the way he mentioned. The sear does not reset fast enough, and the solenoid tries to pull it anyhow. It can be mistaken for a bolt stick issue. A shorter on/off pin can also help this.

Another area to look at, is the solenoid plunger. It should be 3.005 to 3.020 " long.

Believe me when I tell you that I got one heck of an education helping to beta testing the Xmod software.

[Dend78]

You probably couldnt shoot that fast in mech. However if the tank cant keep up or if there is an air restriction it will act like the way he mentioned. The sear does not reset fast enough, and the solenoid tries to pull it anyhow. It can be mistaken for a bolt stick issue. A shorter on/off pin can also help this.

Another area to look at, is the solenoid plunger. It should be 3.005 to 3.020 " long.

Believe me when I tell you that I got one heck of an education helping to beta testthe Xmod software.

I bet you did, thats would be freakin stellar im jelous as hell

[tarthal]

Using a Myth reg with the HP springs making it 850.

Hmm I got no way to test the plunger length. Nor to measure the on/off pin. Tho the on/off pin Iam using is the one that came with the emag on/off I ordered from Tuna. Which Also came with a quad oring which I was not using in my Old on/off. Which looked like bronze top silver bottom and always used a normal oring on that one. O and couldnt unscrew the dam thing. Which the no one comes apart nice and easy.

[tarthal]

Well cleaned and lubed replaced the piston oring. Got a fresh fill today and still having the same issue. Gona have to check the plunger length is the only thing I can think of next. See if I can get one from Home depot this weekend. heh think trying to get this thing fixed is costing me alot more then I was hoping.

[Dend78]

personally i would try another tank with a different reg on it first, like a crossy or something like that that always seems to preform well, then try the other options just to make sure

[tarthal]

So I took it out to play yesterday used it in Mech mode all day till I was able to use someone elses tank. In elec mode with another tank think its was a hp crossfire the problem I was having in Elec mode was gone. So switch back to my tank. And the issue was gone..... Tried it today with my tank issue is completely gone. Guess all the brand new orings/part needs to get a little use dont know. Put about a case thru yesterday. Now to install the lvl 10 and send it in for a software update.

O and anyone happen to know where I can purchase the screw that fits in http://www.actionvillage.com/011-281-0021 some how I lost it yesterday.... And really dont feel like buying another feedneck.

[olinar]

Im not sure what size the threads are but you can take the feedneck down to a lowe's/home depot/ace hardware and find the proper screw.

They are pretty cheap, usually less than a buck for 2.