Co2 or Compressed air

[chefomar]

I recently changed all of the o rings on my classic mag. The question is if i change to compressed air will i have to change all the rings again or will it work just fine? I've only used it once since changing the rings.

[michbich]

It will be fine.

[Watcher]

The only thing you may have to change is the reg piston itself. They have one that is made to handle higher pressures.

If anything, HPA will be better for your o-rings!

[chefomar]

Thanks Guys

[michbich]

The only thing you may have to change is the reg piston itself. They have one that is made to handle higher pressures.

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I will have to disagree on this one. Although it could be a problem with RT valves, it shouldn't be one with classic valves.

The piston shouldn't be a problem in his case. He isn't using an RT reg piston. So if it does have a leak, even after greasing the piston body and changing oring, the classic piston is adjustable. You simply put the piston in a vice and tighten the screw 1/4-1/2 a turn.

Voila! The piston can now accept higher pressure.

[DamianTC]

I had my classic mag since 1998 and up to last year I always used Co2 in it. Last summer I made the switch to HPA with no problems. I didnt have to adjust the piston or change any orings

[MoeMag]

CO2 is just gross, nasty, and archaic. Yeah it works, but so does cutting a leg off because of a bullet wound.

Go to HPA... you wont understand why you fooled around with CO2 for so long.

[Watcher]

I will have to disagree on this one. Although it could be a problem with RT valves, it shouldn't be one with classic valves.

The piston shouldn't be a problem in his case. He isn't using an RT reg piston. So if it does have a leak, even after greasing the piston body and changing oring, the classic piston is adjustable. You simply put the piston in a vice and tighten the screw 1/4-1/2 a turn.

Voila! The piston can now accept higher pressure.

You can't run CO2 on the RTs anyway... so, what's the point of having the High Pressure piston?

[michbich]

You can't run CO2 on the RTs anyway... so, what's the point of having the High Pressure piston?

Aren't you the one that suggested the replacement of the piston? I simply stated that the classic piston is serviceable and ajustable unlike the RT piston.

"The only thing you may have to change is the reg piston itself. They have one that is made to handle higher pressures."

Edit: Before the LVLx bolt, pistons were rated at a lower pressure. But with the LVLx, the bolt needs a higher pressure to compensate for the air release before the actual shot. That is why the pistons are rated at a higher pressure now.

[Watcher]

Aren't you the one that suggested the replacement of the piston? I simply stated that the classic piston is serviceable and ajustable unlike the RT piston.

"The only thing you may have to change is the reg piston itself. They have one that is made to handle higher pressures."

Yes, I know what I said. It was my understanding that when you switch from CO2 to HPA you went to the high pressure piston.

I honestly don't know, why did they make it available as an option if it isn't necessary?
I can see it as a replacement piston for the RT markers, yes, but unless that one breaks why market it otherwise?


Just looked it up really fast and the RT ones are designed different than the classic ones anyway. So there really is no point in offering a high pressure piston...


Edit:
Just read your edit. I forgot about the lvl 10 bolt, that would explain a lot.

[michbich]

Yes, I know what I said. It was my understanding that when you switch from CO2 to HPA you went to the high pressure piston.

I honestly don't know, why did they make it available as an option if it isn't necessary?
I can see it as a replacement piston for the RT markers, yes, but unless that one breaks why market it otherwise?


Just looked it up really fast and the RT ones are designed different than the classic ones anyway. So there really is no point in offering a high pressure piston...

The classic and rt pistons are not interchangeable. I was simply saying that the RT is not adjustable like the classic.

Couple months ago, I changed to LVLx on my regular RT. It's an old valve and needed a new piston to compensate. If i were to change the LVLX on my classic valve, chances are i wont need to do anything. But if it does leak from high pressure, i would adjust the piston and stick it back in the valve without any problem.

Co2 and HPA have roughly the same output. CO2 has a constant 850 PSI, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Edit: They don't make the lower pressure rt piston anymore.