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  • zondo
    One of 8 bosses... again.

    • Dec 2006
    • 2245

    #1

    Is there a fix?

    So the first mag I ever owned came with the smart parts magic box. Yes, I know now that there is nothing PFM about it, but it sits there as a part of my valve.

    My question is, would there be any issue with the box being removed and having the front hole filled with a set screw and some red loctite?
    Stay Classy, AO...
    BEO: RIP / Topgun Paintball: RIP / Old MCB: RIP
  • Coralis
    Hyper Micro
    • Aug 2005
    • 1285

    #2
    shouldnt be so long as you get it sealed so it doesnt leak

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    • punkncat
      One foot less
      • Feb 2003
      • 5841

      #3
      I know very little about them, and would assume what I am saying is wrong....however, before you take it off make sure the valve halves are drilled internally.

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      • Spider-TW
        U R techno-literate!

        • Oct 2006
        • 3554

        #4
        From the pictures, the "working" part of the magic box looks like a 1/8" pipe nipple. It would make sense that the plug would need to be 1/8" NPT (pipe thread), like an ASA plug. Use a brass plug, so that once you got it plugged, maybe you can sand it smooth so it will fit a regular body. At least that was my plan for any smartmag that fell into my hands.

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        • Ruler_Mark
          AKAOG.ORG
          • Aug 2007
          • 2600

          #5
          Furnace is the only salvation.

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          • zondo
            One of 8 bosses... again.

            • Dec 2006
            • 2245

            #6
            Originally posted by Spider-TW
            From the pictures, the "working" part of the magic box looks like a 1/8" pipe nipple. It would make sense that the plug would need to be 1/8" NPT (pipe thread), like an ASA plug. Use a brass plug, so that once you got it plugged, maybe you can sand it smooth so it will fit a regular body. At least that was my plan for any smartmag that fell into my hands.

            That's kinda what I was thinking/hoping. But I don't really want to screw up a working valve if I don't have to.

            Originally posted by Ruler_Mark
            Furnace is the only salvation.
            I'm not ready for that yet.

            EDIT:
            found this in the vault:
            Originally posted by RobAGD
            All the Smart Mags are Level 7's

            You in theroy can remove the box but the plug you end up putting in the side of the valve tends to have leaking issues.

            There were no "extra" parts from the install. They drill and thread a hole in the side of teh air valve to the Air chamber and screw in a holor plug to increse the AC's volume there by droping the working pressure 25-50psi and raising the gas use 30% or more.

            -Robert
            I may give it a go then...
            Last edited by zondo; 03-02-2009, 01:58 AM.
            Stay Classy, AO...
            BEO: RIP / Topgun Paintball: RIP / Old MCB: RIP

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            • PrimoRocker
              The boy who never grew up
              • Mar 2005
              • 130

              #7
              or i could trade you a classic valve for it?

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              • zondo
                One of 8 bosses... again.

                • Dec 2006
                • 2245

                #8
                Alright, so here's what is under the "Magic" box...
                (swiped from another thread)


                Has anyone successfully removed these fittings?
                Stay Classy, AO...
                BEO: RIP / Topgun Paintball: RIP / Old MCB: RIP

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                • BiNumber3
                  Dazed and Confused

                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1038

                  #9
                  hmm, the front one might be removed with a screw driver, the back one... perhaps a strap wrench, or a vice if u dont care about damaging the magical part of the magic box

                  tho, the only thing i see thats magical from that pic is the valve they drilled a hole into

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                  • Spider-TW
                    U R techno-literate!

                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3554

                    #10
                    You know, if you can fit a long plug in there so that it takes up some dump chamber space, you could turn your salvage mod into a 12 gram performance improvement mod. The plug would have to be custom I think, but it's an idea...

                    The anti-magic plug.

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                    • hostiletek
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 59

                      #11
                      Ive never actually noticed the valve is longer than a normal lvl7 valve. It looks like a 3 piece rather than a 2, Whats inside the section between the reg back and the power tube front section?

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                      • pump
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 750

                        #12
                        so what did the back tube do?

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                        • BiNumber3
                          Dazed and Confused

                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1038

                          #13
                          the valve isnt longer than a normal valve, the rail has been cut, and the body has a slot for the magic box.
                          as for the longe tube in back, id say it's just the air input, only longer to accommodate the front tube's length and the box to cover them both

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                          • zondo
                            One of 8 bosses... again.

                            • Dec 2006
                            • 2245

                            #14
                            Looks like the whole mod is centered around the front knob to increase the volume of the dump chamber to lower pressure. The back tube is just an extension of where you would normally plug into your valve (male-male adapter). The black box just looks like a cover-up to make the mod more appealing than 2 tubes sticking out of your valve.
                            Stay Classy, AO...
                            BEO: RIP / Topgun Paintball: RIP / Old MCB: RIP

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                            • Coralis
                              Hyper Micro
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1285

                              #15
                              Looks like the whole mod is centered around the front knob to increase the volume of the dump chamber to lower pressure. The back tube is just an extension of where you would normally plug into your valve (male-male adapter). The black box just looks like a cover-up to make the mod more appealing than 2 tubes sticking out of your valve.
                              Yeah and all for the bargain price of 150 dollars (as I recall)

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