Old Timer needs help with upgrades

[Dawg047]

If you are planning on making it pnuematic or electropnuematic whats the point of the x-valve? Is the extra return force needed to reset the pnuematics? The standard valve doesn't start shooting down until somewhere around 13bps if I remember correctly. Plus with the standard valve you don't have to worry about shoot-up and silly chrono procedures.

If I was looking for the most speed from a nonassisted trigger pull I would go x-valve and crank the pressure up.

Well, that is a good point but some people shoot faster than 13bps. I personally can with my pneumatic frame. If you are going EP, then you are definately going to want valve capabilities over 13bps. To be honest, the classic valve atleast all I have had start to "chuff" below 13bps which is why I run RT/RTP/X valves in all of my pneumatic applications. The classics have a good rate of recharge but do tend to chuff every now and then.

[pump]

If you are going EP, then you are definately going to want valve capabilities over 13bps. To be honest, the classic valve atleast all I have had start to "chuff" below 13bps

weird even my 92 mag does 15 no problem no shoot down

and those vids had classics doing 20

[Spider-TW]

weird even my 92 mag does 15 no problem no shoot down

and those vids had classics doing 20

Since classic valves take longer to recharge, they need an electronic frame to run 'chuff-less' the higher they get. It's hard not to chuff a classic pneu above 10-12, but they can run with an EP frame at 15 and a little above since the frame guarantees recharge time.

[pump]

It's hard not to chuff a classic pneu above 10-12,

i think thats tuing, my friends pneuclassic rips no drop off