benchmark frame Vs stock frame

[big poppa fluff]

This may be a old question but,
I always wondered why a stock mag frame has a shorter and crisper pull than a benchmark frame for a mag?

Can you shorten the pull on a benchmark frame?

lend me your thoughs on the matter.

[Sumthinwicked]

dude just rol the sear pin the lighter trig of the stock is plastic and the benchy is metal differant weight differant placement makes for a diff feel i hate reg mag frames i always use a benchy

[big poppa fluff]

dude just rol the sear pin the lighter trig of the stock is plastic and the benchy is metal differant weight differant placement makes for a diff feel i hate reg mag frames i always use a benchy

OK, so if I shorten trigger sear pin the pull on the bench mark frame will shorten, and it won't screw up the works of the gun

[secretweaponevan]

OK, so if I shorten trigger sear pin the pull on the bench mark frame will shorten, and it won't screw up the works of the gun

No. Don't mess with the trigger rod. It can cause problems.

Benchmark frames use a different geometry which makes for a longer, softer pull.

[Sumthinwicked]

wtf u smokin bud???? LOL i have owned around 70 mags i think i actually increase the rod length so it has a shorter travel to fire and i have never had any issues

[big poppa fluff]

wtf u smokin bud???? LOL i have owned around 70 mags i think i actually increase the rod length so it has a shorter travel to fire and i have never had any issues

ok so I lengthen the rod (unscrew) to shorten the pull.
any other advice you can give me to improve the shortness and lightining of the pull.

[chill will]

If you have a classic valve put a RT on/off in her, its like taking the blue pill with nothing but time and a lady friend to spend it with.

[secretweaponevan]

wtf u smokin bud???? LOL i have owned around 70 mags i think i actually increase the rod length so it has a shorter travel to fire and i have never had any issues

It can lead to bolt wear, especially in RT's. The sear is on a hinge. No matter how long/short the trigger rod is, it still has to go forward and back. To cut into its distance is not recommended, especially for people new to mags (bolt wear, chuffing, etc.).

Can you do it? Sure.
"You can drive with your feet too, but it doesn't make it a good idea". (/chris_rock)

[Watcher]

As far as I remember, the trigger rod should be about a mm from the back of the trigger on whatever frame you use.

That should give you the shortest pull without compromising wear or reliability.


The benchy I have on my RT Classic is... interesting.

The play in the trigger is rediculous, maybe about 1/5th of the trigger pull actually operates the marker.

It does make the pull very light, but it eliminated almost all of the RT effect in the valve.

I don't like it at all compared to my Pro's Intelliframe. I'd rather one of those or a stock single trigger.

But to each his own.

[Dend78]

pneu it

[big poppa fluff]

pneu it

I dont have the skill, tools, or time to do that i would rather buy a G-force frame

[Dend78]

I dont have the skill, tools, or time to do that i would rather buy a G-force frame

if you buy a g-force frame you better have time

[snoopay700]

The benchy puts the pivot point further behind the trigger than the stock trigger, meaning it has to move further to make the back of the trigger go the same distance which basically spread the force applied over a longer distance. You do the same amount of work but due to leverage pretty much you use less force, so it lengthens the stock pull while making it easier to pull. I don't like benchys, i used my friend's and it was, bleh. Listen to watcher about the sear rod length though, man knows what he's talking about.

[chill will]

If you have a classic valve put a RT on/off in her, its like taking the blue pill with nothing but time and a lady friend to spend it with.

This does work and will allow a classic valve to shoot faster, smoother, and lessen the lbs. nneded to fire your marker. If your sear rod is not set right it will cause your mag to chuff in rapid fire. Easy way to set your sear:

1 Gas up your marker.
2 your sear rod should be almost, but not, touching the back of your trigger.

[big poppa fluff]

thanks for all the help guys i have some work to do now I'll keep this thread open for awhile and tell you how it comes out