HP thru classic rt foregrip and other questions
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hmm i think u missunderstand me.
iam not talking over the regulated output! HPA full tank pressure.
my old AA appocalypse HP has 4 ports:
2 regulated ports, one for the outgoing pressure gauge and the other for the hose-link to the marker.
the other 2, unregulated, (lower) ports are for the tankgauge and for the fillnippel.
i want to link my foregrip with a microhose to one of the unregd ports. so its some kind of enlongened/relocating the tank pressure gauge.
so long/bis denne
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The 3K threshold on the valve will allow anything OVER it to Off gas anyway... and I don't think you'd be able to pull the trigger with 4500 PSI sitting behind it.
And contrary to popular belief the higher the pressure the better the workings isn't exactly true...
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oh I misunderstood you as well at first... You want full pressure from your tank up your gas thru grip to a pressure gauge?? I would say don't do it...
remember only carbon fiber tanks can hold 4500 psi... the steel tanks can only do 3000 psi. now what is your gas thru grip made out of?Comment
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What is micro hose? Is it rated to 4500psi working pressure?Originally posted by Bonzaihmm i think u missunderstand me.
iam not talking over the regulated output! HPA full tank pressure.
my old AA appocalypse HP has 4 ports:
2 regulated ports, one for the outgoing pressure gauge and the other for the hose-link to the marker.
the other 2, unregulated, (lower) ports are for the tankgauge and for the fillnippel.
i want to link my foregrip with a microhose to one of the unregd ports. so its some kind of enlongened/relocating the tank pressure gauge.
so long/bis denne
bonzai
NO DONT DO IT.
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True, true. The A.I.R. valves were tested at over 5000psi.Originally posted by DevilManThe 3K threshold on the valve will allow anything OVER it to Off gas anyway... and I don't think you'd be able to pull the trigger with 4500 PSI sitting behind it.
And contrary to popular belief the higher the pressure the better the workings isn't exactly true...
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Hmmm... Well, would you ever put 4500 PSI straight into any other marker? I doubt it. So I do not advise doing so with a Mag. Besides, I find that the optimal working pressure is between 700-900 PSI.
If you have a LvL 10 you need shims and carriers, not spacers.
I have tried the teflon o-rings from Classic kits in my RT and it didn't work. You need the o-rings from the Classic RT kit.
You likely do not need the aluminum main body washer for anything. You need the backing washer for the LvL 10 so that the carrier o-ring doesn't end up inside the dump chamber.
A foamie should be already installed on a new LvL 10 bolt, and kits should include 2 or 3 extra foamies. From what I've read the foamie doesn't really make a huge difference anyway.
I'm pretty sure that most tournaments do not allow reactive triggers, in which case you'd have to use your Appocalypse to turn your pressure down until it doesn't RT enough to rapid fire. Even then I'm not sure whether it'd be allowed.Comment
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Different tournaments have different regulations on reactive triggers. Keep the reactivity down and you shouldn't have any problems. The reactive trigger fear is mainly due to the Tippman reactive triggers that go full auto.
The 4500 psi tank pressure going into a for grip is a bad idea. The foregrip may be thick enough to handle it, but the line going to it and the fittings attaching the line probably won't.
On the level 10 bolts, the foamies last a long time if put on properly. If they do come off, its not a big deal. You can run the gun without them. It'll be just like any other open face bolt on the market.
Everything else has pretty much been covered. Good luck with the mag. You'll love it when you get it tuned and performing like it can.Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.Comment
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thx for the help folks!
just to set things clear: i dont want to run HPA into my mag. iam planing to connect the hpsys direct to the rear of my mag, without the foregrip.
the foregrip is made of alluminium.
the "microhose" i mean is a normal microline hose.
i have seen this: ninja paintball HPA fill whip for remotesetups
is there any other type of hose to connect 4500psi ?
would a brass NPT 90 degree elbow withstand the pressure?
can a macroline elbow take 4500psi? probably not or?...arg
only one question left: whats about the 10years old autolube? any drawbacks in viscosity or something or can i still use it?
many thx for all the help
i hope i get this purr
it has maket me some headache while this baby spits out much spray...it has realy disappointed me, but thank god K there is a LVL10...
so with a lvl10 and a warpfeed this thing would get realy old with me...Comment
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I actually started playing again last summer in '08. The last time I played before that was in '01 or '02. When I pulled all my gear out, all I had was autolube that I probably bought in 1999 or 2000. Still looked the same with the same thickness. I used it and had no problem. But the fact is, unless you bought a case of autolube ten years ago, your going to have to buy alot more in the very near future.. just use what you got until you need moreOriginally posted by Bonzaionly one question left: whats about the 10years old autolube? any drawbacks in viscosity or something or can i still use it?Comment
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The brass fitting may or may not withstand the 4500psi pressure. You would have to check the ratings of the one you would use. Chances are a 4500psi rated brass fitting will be quite a bit bulkier than what you are typically used to, which is why steel fittings are often used for high pressure applications.
I wouldn't run macroline over 1000psi, and that is only the high pressure nylon macroline from Parker. Typical macroline is only rated for a few hundred psi. It works when new, but as soon as you get a scratch or bend, it blows.
If the auto lube is not separated then it is good. I suspect the life expectancy is long.Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.Comment
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where can i get those steel-fittings? NPT isnt a common standart in germany ;-)Originally posted by athomasThe brass fitting may or may not withstand the 4500psi pressure. You would have to check the ratings of the one you would use. Chances are a 4500psi rated brass fitting will be quite a bit bulkier than what you are typically used to, which is why steel fittings are often used for high pressure applications.
anybody knows a shipping firm that trades them? or even a idea where to request?
to cover the hose is a good point, i will consider a solution such as a pipe or a steelflex cover.
if there is no option to get fittings, then eventualy i have to make my own fittigs of raw steel.
but i dont want to, for 3 bucks to much work...
thanks for all the nerves & help
so long
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