My first experience with my Tac One.

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OK so now im getting what i think they call "bolt stick" where im getting the " CHUFFIN' " noise after firing in succession, i am having no leaking noises though, so is it time to add/ rmeove shims?

EDIT: went DOWN not up, my mistake/ fixed this problem look lower...

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OK it has to be something with the on/ off, because i switched carriers and Im getting the same reaction if i pull the trigger gently air leaks out the barrel, if i let off it stops, if i pull harder it firs the gun. what am i missing?

THIS IS STILL A ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT IS HAPPENING ^

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UPDATE: I know Im now using the right carrier, the one higher makes it leak more, the one lower makes it stick. I also know im using the right amount of shims in my on/off because if if i add one it leaks more, and if i remove one it is difficult to fire. The only thing i have left to bugger around with is the shims in the lvl 10, what happens if i add or remove from there?

[Watcher]

My 68/4500 gets about 6pods and a hopper off my RT Pro.


The shims in the lvl10 tell it when to fire, I believe. 2 should be the usual amount, 1 will make it fire when the bolt is farther forward, and 3 will usually make it leak...


What spring do you have on the bolt?

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The gold one. It was recommended i use that one.

I'm removing shims in the lvl 10 one by one now seems to have leaked less the last one i took out so i might have isolated the problem. Also worth noting the trigger frame/ assembly is in working order.

UPDATE: Down to 1 shim now/ resembling then testing.

RESULT: One shim leaked as much as 2 but not as much as 3. It also made it difficult to fire, I'm switching back to 2 shims...

I'm starting to get low on air and I'm sure the other tenants in the building are getting sick of my test firing if anyone has some advice don't hold out on me...

[AGDRetro]

Ebbed, out of curiousity where do you live? Always ready to help out a fellow magger!

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OK end result. I am o farther ahead then i was when i cma home form work, accept i have much less air to mess around tomorrow.

I can pull the trigger and get a faint "hisssing" noise, and if i pull it further it will fire. This could have been happening when i was at the field and didn't realize it, which may explain why i used up so much air. I would REALLY like a solution to this problem... You can see the steps i have taken perhaps there is something i have missed. Let me know. PLEASE.

I am in Windsor, Ontario, Canada

[WickedKlown2]

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here is a pic of the carriers used : I copied these from the AGD site : http://www.airgundesignsusa.com/xmag/html/lvl10.html

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use just 2 shims in the level 10 and make sure that you use plenty of oil... It will take some time to brake in the inside carrier o-ring ( #9 in the 2nd pic / white o-ring) and always make sure that you use the same inside o-ring when changing carrier sizes...

Hope this helps

WK2

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i know I'm using the right carrier, if i go down one it sticks, if i go up one it leaks more.

it only leaks when i gently pull the trigger

[WickedKlown2]

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On a Mag you can not Gently pull the Trigger (creep the trigger) or you will get the leak you are talking about... You have to pull the trigger in one concise motion... It takes awhile to get used to...

If you are looking for trigger bounce (RT effect) you can not creep the trigger either,,, pull it back about half way and keep pressure on the trigger while you feel it kick back against your finger... This also takes awhile to master unless you are using a high output reg (1000 psi)... Once you have it mastered it is easy to find and all the Aggletts will be in awe...

Hope that Helps

WK2

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nope wasn't looking for trigger bounce, i have A LOT more travel on my trigger than you do apparently. During the concise motion you speak of it leaks a split second before it fires and a split second after.

PULL TIRGGER
"hissss", *BANG*, "his"

[WickedKlown2]

nope wasn't looking for trigger bounce, i have A LOT more travel on my trigger than you do apparently. During the concise motion you speak of it leaks a split second before it fires and a split second after.

PULL TIRGGER
"hissss", *BANG*, "his"

So when you place you finger on the trigger you get the Hiss ??? or when you take the shot ???

hiss Bang hiss and hissing stops once you take the shot sounds about normal to me...

Give me about 15 minutes and let me go out into the Garage and take a couple of shots with my Tac-One and I can give you a better answer...

WK2

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if i was to pull the trigger slowly to the point of firing thats what i would get, hiss, bang, hiss then it stops. but even in one FAST motion i notice it too

if i am resting my fingers on the trigger it will hiss

[trevorjk]

then it is definitely the on/off or ULT. try putting the ULT back to its previous state with the amount of shims you had earlier. oil it up well. put it back in.

if leak continues, it sounds like you might have to replace the orings on the ULT, that would mean the tiny ones on the inside and the larger ones on the outside of the ULT.

[WickedKlown2]

OK I'm back from the garage...

When I first start to pull the trigger I don't get a hiss,,, when I pull and hold the trigger to the rear I get a slight hiss at the end of the Bang... When I pull and release once again get a slight hiss after the bang... I believe that the ever so slight hiss at the end is the on/off resetting (filling the dump back up with air) for the follow on shot... I don't have my ULE Trigger On/Off in at the moment and can't give you a definite on the before hiss... Try putting about 3 - 4 drops of oil in the ASA and dry fire a couple of times to make sure the marker has plenty of Oil for the seals... The Mag is not only a Gas Hog but a Oil Hog as well...

Also sounds like trevorjk has a better answer than I do... ^^^

Hope that Helps...

WK2