WANTED: Video Evidence of Gen2 Micro Mag RTing well

[Ms54Coupe]

Hello everyone.

I have a gen 2 micro mag and have been researching and planning on how I want to build it. I have a few threads on here and have been watching some UT vids. Seems like most people have ULE or RT Classics etc and few people have micro mag videos, let alone RT micro mags.

I want to build my micro mag into a fast RT micro and I really want to see some vids of micros RTing. I noticed that when I fire my micro the trigger pin moves up and down not just straight back and straight forward. I am wondering if this semi sloppy movement in the sear assembly will effect the micro's ability to RT once I get a valve.

Videos will help me get over my suspicion if anyone can link them!

Thanks,

Nate

[dark blade]

well... i am in the process of building a micromag that i can rt with

this is the only video i can find at the moment

http://s170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/AronMsmith1987/MCB%20Gallery/Sold%20Guns/Mechanical/?action=view&current=DSCF0030.flv

they can obviously RT. I don't think your sear is going to affect anything

[Frizzle Fry]

they can obviously RT. I don't think your sear is going to affect anything

Bodies have NOTHING to do with the R/T effect. It's a matter of using the right length on/off in your valve, with a high enough input pressure, and tuning of your sear pin to the length that'll work best. The fact that it's a Micromag should have no influence on your ability to R/T.

[Rudz]

Hello everyone.

I have a gen 2 micro mag and have been researching and planning on how I want to build it. I have a few threads on here and have been watching some UT vids. Seems like most people have ULE or RT Classics etc and few people have micro mag videos, let alone RT micro mags.

I want to build my micro mag into a fast RT micro and I really want to see some vids of micros RTing. I noticed that when I fire my micro the trigger pin moves up and down not just straight back and straight forward. I am wondering if this semi sloppy movement in the sear assembly will effect the micro's ability to RT once I get a valve.

Videos will help me get over my suspicion if anyone can link them!

Thanks,

Nate

I believe that due to the bodies, micromags and emicros work best with a shorter on/off pin

P8ntball4me has a couple. E micros that spray paint like its free, anyone at tunaball 1 can attest to his high rof, I know thers a pik of me and my gun covered in green field paint after trying to bunker someone who was in the snake

[MANN]

Bodies have NOTHING to do with the R/T effect. It's a matter of using the right length on/off in your valve, with a high enough input pressure, and tuning of your sear pin to the length that'll work best. The fact that it's a Micromag should have no influence on your ability to R/T.

yes and no. micormag bodies are different than agd spec bodies so it is not always as easy. It is doable tho.

[Rudz]

yes and no. micormag bodies are different than agd spec bodies so it is not always as easy. It is doable tho.

Exactly

Ptp and agd don't always have the same exact specs

[Frizzle Fry]

yes and no. micormag bodies are different than agd spec bodies so it is not always as easy. It is doable tho.

I suppose...

I mean, I've set up all of my Micromags by (educated) experimentation with different on/off lengths and got it to work. I know if you're running a ULE body and RT/P rail you can just look up the proper pin length and input pressure on a forum and from there very little tuning is needed, but the same really isn't true of a classic body and rail combo with an X-valve, which took me about the same amount of time as a Micromag to set up for a propper RT effect.

I guess a Micromag is harder to set up because there isn't a stickied document on what specs work best for specific generations of Micromag?

[xero28]

I believe that due to the bodies, micromags and emicros work best with a shorter on/off pin

This was my situation. I don't have the micro anymore, but when I did, I was having problems with it even firing until I shaved a bit off of the on/off pin. It RT'd pretty well with a standard preset tank.

[MANN]

I guess a Micromag is harder to set up because there isn't a stickied document on what specs work best for specific generations of Micromag?

There is not any info on it. stickied or not.

[maniacmechanic]

I suppose...

I mean, I've set up all of my Micromags by (educated) experimentation with different on/off lengths and got it to work. I know if you're running a ULE body and RT/P rail you can just look up the proper pin length and input pressure on a forum and from there very little tuning is needed, but the same really isn't true of a classic body and rail combo with an X-valve, which took me about the same amount of time as a Micromag to set up for a propper RT effect.

I guess a Micromag is harder to set up because there isn't a stickied document on what specs work best for specific generations of Micromag?

I have found this ( RED ) to be true in almost all instance's when I mix & match bodies & rails , expecially non AGD parts or parts that have been ULE'd to the max
IMHO there is NO magic setup with aftermarket parts
I even have Valves that just RT better than others
IMHO thats one of the fun ( sometimes frustrating ) things about Mag's

[ThaBobsta]

Give me a little while (2 days) I will get a video of mine going, your looking for a ptp micromag 2k right?

[Frizzle Fry]

I have found this ( RED ) to be true in almost all instance's when I mix & match bodies & rails , expecially non AGD parts or parts that have been ULE'd to the max
IMHO there is NO magic setup with aftermarket parts
I even have Valves that just RT better than others
IMHO thats one of the fun ( sometimes frustrating ) things about Mag's

My point exactly... The "magic setup" that gets tossed around is, at best, only really useful (a) if you have bone stock R/T ULE or Tac One and a 900-1200 psi tank output or (b) as a jumping off point for further tuning. There is no magical combination of items that can be thrown in a mag, gassed up, and garuntee'd to R/T immediately.

I agree; like any marker it'll take fine-tuning to be "perfect" no matter what "perfect" means to you. The fun is just as much in making it perfect as it is in playing; most people only play every few weeks or even every few months, so what's the appeal? Tinkering, fooling around, upgrading, downgrading, maintaining, hypothesizing and experimenting.

There is not any info on it. stickied or not.

In relation to Micromags, no.

There is a fairly generally agreed upon combination of 900+ tank output, .712 emag pin and a quad O-ring... That gets tossed around a lot.

I personally have had good luck with the .712 pin (though it wasn't right on my TacOne, I needed a longer one) and I've NEVER seen the need for the quad O-ring on any of my markers except my Micro2000; I used to always order one when I set up a new R/T-valved mag an never end up needing it. That's why I have 4 of them in my parts kit...

Overall the best way to get a solid R/T effect in my book is experimentation with those guidlines as your jumping off point. Having a good amount of air around for tuning purposes is very helpful, and even if you only own one mag having different on/off options and o-ring options is a great thing.

[Ms54Coupe]

Give me a little while (2 days) I will get a video of mine going, your looking for a ptp micromag 2k right?

I am looking for video of an old Micro Gen 2 (threaded barrel) which has been upgraded with rt/x/or emag valve.

I would like to see one of these mags really rippin RT effect because so far I can only find vids of mini or auto mags RTing

[ThaBobsta]

Well, Hopefully mine is the one you want, it is a micro mag 2k with an emag valve.

[dark blade]

here was the break down of barrels as i had found on here earlier yesterday

Gen1 = Fixed barrel, no wing, no foregrip, powerfeed.

Gen1.5 = Cocker barrel, no wing, no foregrip, powerfeed.

Gen2 = Cocker threaded, no wing, foregrip, powerfeed.

Gen3 = Cocker threaded, wing, foregrip, powerfeed.

Gen4 = Cocker threaded, wing, foregrip, centerfeed.

Gen5 = MM2k9

he needs the one in red (the one in the video i posted)