Are These 2 'Mags Feasible to Build?

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  • Walking Stick
    Inline Mechs

    • Jan 2007
    • 681

    #1

    Are These 2 'Mags Feasible to Build?

    Here are the major parts of the two 'Mags I'm building.

    #1
    - ULE body
    - RT-Pro X-Valve
    - RT-Pro on/off assembly (matches AGD store photo)
    - Lvl10 Superbolt
    - AM/MM Eclipse splash rail
    - AM/MM sear assembly with pin
    - Z-Grip frame
    - KAPP Grip Extender

    #2
    - powerfeed-right/hopper-left Minimag body
    - Smart Parts SmartMag 68Automag Classic valve
    - AM/MM on/off assembly (matches AGD store photo)
    - hardnose foamieless bolt
    - AM/MM Smart Parts splash rail
    - AM/MM sear assembly (no pin yet)
    - Y-Grip frame

    Info
    1. I'll be getting a Lvl7/Foamie bolt for the SmartMag and a ULE kit.
    2. If I can't get good reactivity out of the RT-Pro valve with Lvl10 I'll put the Foamie on the RT-Pro and Lvl10 on the SmartMag.
    3. I know I'm missing the AM/MM sear pin and thumb screws.
    4. For spares I was thinking of an X-Valve o-ring kit, AM/MM o-ring kit, sear pins, extra thumb screws, extra frame screws, powertube spacer kit, AM regulator piston, RT regulator piston assembly, extra regulator piston o-ring and foamies.
    5. I'll be drilling through the ULE's front recess to attach a the KAPP grip extension.

    Questions
    1. Nevermind, I found Lvl10 instructions and pictures under Resources. Thanks AO!
    2. The ULE body has a round protrusion where the front frame screw goes but the AM/MM Eclipse rail has a rectangular depression. It'll fit and screw together but should I look into cutting up some delrin or rubber to fill the extra space and give it more support?
    3. Need I be concerned about whether or not the sear's trigger rod has been messed with?
    4. I need to modify the KAPP grip extender to work with the Z-Grip frame (about a 1/2" wide 60* channel at the bottom rear of the KAPP). Shall I try it myself with a hacksaw/Dremel/files or give it to someone on AO to do it professionally?
    5. My Y-Grip did not come with a safety, where can I get just that part?

    Any answers or suggestions are much appreciated. I'm hoping to have these up and running in two weeks. Thanks!
    Last edited by Walking Stick; 01-17-2010, 01:41 PM. Reason: UPDATE
    >>WTB<< Sydarm w/ constant air__WarpedMephisto half-c/f body__Ac!d c/f trigger__TASO humpback frame__an Oh-Mag
  • Smoothice
    Registered User

    • Nov 2006
    • 4579

    #2
    Yes to all the above. It will all work as you have listed. As for the rail on mag #2. any rail will work but a notch will need to be cut in the side to accomodate the warp body.

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    • DevilMan
      FeedBack is at my HomePage
      • Aug 2004
      • 2479

      #3
      Yep, and most if not all of the parts can be purchased through here in less than a day more than lkely.

      DM

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      • Shirow
        www.digitalgunfire.com
        • Aug 2002
        • 2023

        #4
        Bear in mind for mag 2, if you don't want to use an X-Valve you will need to have the valve modified in order to accept a ULT.
        Superbolt

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        • Walking Stick
          Inline Mechs

          • Jan 2007
          • 681

          #5
          Smoothice--good to know about milling the frame; I'll think I'll just stick to a Vert ULE

          DevilMan--yup, I've already started

          Shirow--perfect timing on that vital little tidbit

          Thanks all!
          >>WTB<< Sydarm w/ constant air__WarpedMephisto half-c/f body__Ac!d c/f trigger__TASO humpback frame__an Oh-Mag

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          • Shirow
            www.digitalgunfire.com
            • Aug 2002
            • 2023

            #6
            NP. In regards to the rail for mag 2, any rail will work. I've used a ULE body on an old AM/MM rail and a newer RT style rail.
            Superbolt

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            • vf-xx
              Henchmen Inc.
              • Nov 2001
              • 3311

              #7
              Originally posted by Shirow
              NP. In regards to the rail for mag 2, any rail will work. I've used a ULE body on an old AM/MM rail and a newer RT style rail.
              the big difference here is: I don't *think* you need to notch a AM/MM rail for a warp body, but you do have to notch a RT rail.
              -- Feedback--

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              • BiNumber3
                Dazed and Confused

                • Feb 2008
                • 1038

                #8
                and I dont think there were ever any full steel RT style valves, all that i've seen have an aluminum back.
                And usually, if u get an x-valve, it'll come with a lvl10, and no need to modify it to fit the ULT, so if u want the ULT, it'll prolly be cheaper to go x-valve

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                • pinkanese
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 228

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BiNumber3
                  and I dont think there were ever any full steel RT style valves, all that i've seen have an aluminum back.
                  And usually, if u get an x-valve, it'll come with a lvl10, and no need to modify it to fit the ULT, so if u want the ULT, it'll prolly be cheaper to go x-valve
                  The retro and r/t pro valves are all stainless, the Emag valve is the only half aluminum one.

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                  • BiNumber3
                    Dazed and Confused

                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1038

                    #10
                    i actually tested a number of retro and rt valves, the back half is indeed aluminum as far as weight and density are concerned, unless u can explain how the "steel" on those were annodized the greyish hues that they were

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                    • Walking Stick
                      Inline Mechs

                      • Jan 2007
                      • 681

                      #11
                      UPDATED build parts and questions.
                      >>WTB<< Sydarm w/ constant air__WarpedMephisto half-c/f body__Ac!d c/f trigger__TASO humpback frame__an Oh-Mag

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                      • Tunaman
                        Specialized AGD Tech

                        • Dec 2000
                        • 8643

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pinkanese
                        The retro and r/t pro valves are all stainless, the Emag valve is the only half aluminum one.
                        Nope. All valves except the Classic have aluminum backs.
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                        Tunamart

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