Mag Regulator Question

[sslecyk03]

I've seen some people remove the reg on their mag valves and cap them off while using a reg or adjustable tank to control the input pressure to the valve. I am interested in doing this in an effort to take some inches off the back of the valve. I have a few questions though:

1. Would this only work with classic valves and not x-valves?

2. If using an adjustable tank, what pressure would I need it to output in order to operate the marker?

3. How would I adjust the velocity of the marker with the reg removed?

4. Would shootdown be a problem and if so what steps can be taken to avoid it?

Thank you guys, as always

[Frizzle Fry]

I removed about a centimeter of threading from my AA valve back and fabricated a shorter spring pack.

I'd like to know how to do away with the reg entirely though (I love Classics but I have a project in mind).

[sslecyk03]

I removed about a centimeter of threading from my AA valve back and fabricated a shorter spring pack.

I'd like to know how to do away with the reg entirely though (I love Classics but I have a project in mind).

I figured I wouldn't be the only one interested in it. Saw the idea on the mcarterbrown forums and I would love to try it out, I'm sure someone here can answer those questions.

[reckid1986]

you can do it to both valves you just need an inline reg, theres another thread like this somewhere, ill try to find it and link you to it.

[Frizzle Fry]

I did a search, but there doesn't seem to be much and I have a feeling my terms were wrong. Damn you George Boole!

[reckid1986]

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59051

heres one with some info about it
and the other

http://www.pblegion.com/showthread.php?t=2670

[Frizzle Fry]

Hmmm. I was hoping for an aftermarket part for a standard AM valve... Machining a whole new valve though, that could be fun.

[leloup]

That would be pretty sweet to have something like that. Mag regs are great, but if you are going to have a foregrip, it might as well do something beside give you something to hold...and look pretty.

[sslecyk03]

Thanks for the links, do you have to use an inline reg or can you just use an adjustable tank? And also anyone know the input pressure needed?

[Tunaman]

Thanks for the links, do you have to use an inline reg or can you just use an adjustable tank? And also anyone know the input pressure needed?

Why would you take off a good reg to put another reg back on? There is no aftermarket part to fill the hole in the back of the valve. Input pressure needs to be the same...700+
Not worth it.

[sslecyk03]

Why would you take off a good reg to put another reg back on? There is no aftermarket part to fill the hole in the back of the valve. Input pressure needs to be the same...700+
Not worth it.

Caps have been made that screw on instead of the reg, so yes it can be done. I understand the reg is good (great in fact), and by taking it off I am by no means implying that there is a better reg. I am willing, however, to sacrifice some of the recharge in order to "half block" or cut down some length from the back of the marker. I have a design in my mind and I'm trying to follow through with it.

So lets say I cap off the back of the valve, can I just use an adjustable tank as opposed to an inline reg? If so I would need a lower input pressure would I not?

[Ando]

Your project should work with a classic valve but I'm not sure how you'd get a RT valve to work right, when I mean by work right, I'm talking about RT effect. The velocity (FPS) could be adj by an adj reg but as far as RTing goes. I'm not sure how it would work out since the more pressure you have going into the valve the faster it'll shoots. You won't be able to push 1200 psi through it cause that'll cause your FPS to sky rocket.

[sslecyk03]

Your project should work with a classic valve but I'm not sure how you'd get a RT valve to work right, when I mean by work right, I'm talking about RT effect. The velocity (FPS) could be adj by a adj reg itself but as fare as RTing goes. I'm not sure how it would work out since the more pressure you have going into the valve the faster it'll shoots. You won't be able to push 1200 psi through it cause that'll cause your FPS to sky rocket.

Loosing reactivity is fine with me, considering I'm probably going to pneu it anyway. My main concern is will I be able to use only the reg on an adjustable tank instead of using an inline reg and what pressure I will need to output from the reg. I'm looking into the ninja reg/tanks and wondering if they will get the job done. It all depends on what psi I need to input to the valve. From there I am set. I'm talking to Deus Machina, who has made the caps, on the mcarterbrown forums. I guess Rogue made some as well. If they can't help me then I have access to a lathe so I might just machine my own.

[Ando]

You'd have to get an adj reg like a Geddon, Dynflow, ect..ect...

Something that will give you a precise PSI for your velocity. There's too much throw with a ninja or any of those other adj regs.

[sslecyk03]

You'd have to get an adj reg like a Geddon, Dynflow, ect..ect...

Something that will give you a precise PSI for your velocity. There's too much throw with a ninja or any of those other adj regs.

Alright so no ninja. I really was looking for a screw in tank tank/reg. Are there any screw ins that will give me a precise psi? Any clue on what psi I'd need to input to the valve? Thanks.