Inconsistent X Valve chrono speed

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  • Slider30250

    #1

    Inconsistent X Valve chrono speed

    Is it normal for the X valve to be inconsistent over the chrono for the first 5 to7 shots before it settles down to +/- 1 to 2 fps. My valve acts like it needs some heat in it first before the shot to shot consistency settles down.
  • vf-xx
    Henchmen Inc.
    • Nov 2001
    • 3311

    #2
    Are you chronoing properly?

    X-valves you should fire one shot, then hold the trigger back, then quickly cycle the trigger (again holding the trigger back).
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    • Slider30250

      #3
      Are you chronoing properly?

      X-valves you should fire one shot, then hold the trigger back, then quickly cycle the trigger (again holding the trigger back).
      I am, I have used the RT method as well as just pulling the trigger and releasing before firing the next shot and both methods showed the same result.

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      • FA22RaptorF22
        AO-CT
        • Nov 2006
        • 593

        #4
        Simple fix. Problems with velocity have to do with the regulator section.

        To be safe, replace the two reg seat orings and lube the reg piston in the back of the regulator.

        Run oil through the asa and you are good to go

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        • Slider30250

          #5
          Simple fix. Problems with velocity have to do with the regulator section.

          To be safe, replace the two reg seat orings and lube the reg piston in the back of the regulator.

          Run oil through the asa and you are good to go
          Would regulator problems explain why it takes 5 to 7 shots for the FPS to settle down?

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          • FA22RaptorF22
            AO-CT
            • Nov 2006
            • 593

            #6
            Originally posted by Slider30250
            Would regulator problems explain why it takes 5 to 7 shots for the FPS to settle down?
            Yes. A poor reg seat would take a few shots to seal properly which would explain more psi getting into the dump chamber and screwing with your shot consistency.

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            • Watcher
              aka CavDragoneb12
              • Apr 2008
              • 867

              #7
              OIL


              If that doesn't do it, as was said: The reg-seat o-ring or the reg-piston o-ring.

              Try the reg seat first before opening up the reg half to get to the piston.

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              • Slider30250

                #8
                Thanks for the replies guys, I have ordered a rebuild kit for my X valve. The frustrating thing about this problem is that the valve has been doing this since it was new, I thought it was normal for the X valve to be +/- 25 FPS for the first few shots before shooting good. I just want my X valve to shoot cold as good as it does hot (temp wise).

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                • FA22RaptorF22
                  AO-CT
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 593

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Slider30250
                  Thanks for the replies guys, I have ordered a rebuild kit for my X valve. The frustrating thing about this problem is that the valve has been doing this since it was new, I thought it was normal for the X valve to be +/- 25 FPS for the first few shots before shooting good. I just want my X valve to shoot cold as good as it does hot (temp wise).
                  hmm maybe your carrier is a tad tight and takes a few shots to break it in.

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                  • Slider30250

                    #10
                    I don't think so, I have shot 6 cases through the valve and have adjusted the carrier O ring tension to the point that the bolt will almost fall off the end of the powertube when the valve is tipped down. I just hope that the O ring kit will fix it.

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                    • Ando
                      Magusmaximus
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 4144

                      #11
                      I'm assuming you been using the same air tank with those 6 cases?

                      I wouldn't worry about it. If it's only your fist 7 shots doing it, I don't see that as a issue.
                      Last edited by Ando; 02-16-2010, 08:26 PM.
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                      • athomas
                        Of course it works-its AGD
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 8039

                        #12
                        Take the velocity adjuster off the back and clean the back section of the valve out and inspect the oring. Dirt here could affect the ability of the regulator to react properly.
                        Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                        • FA22RaptorF22
                          AO-CT
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 593

                          #13
                          Originally posted by athomas
                          Take the velocity adjuster off the back and clean the back section of the valve out and inspect the oring. Dirt here could affect the ability of the regulator to react properly.
                          Well the regulator nut doesn't have to be clean; its rather that the piston can seal good yet move freely and easily so the reg can react quickly!

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                          • Slider30250

                            #14
                            Take the velocity adjuster off the back and clean the back section of the valve out and inspect the oring. Dirt here could affect the ability of the regulator to react properly.
                            ATHOMAS, am I correct in assuming that the X valve should be as consistent shot to shot as the classic valve, just faster.

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                            • athomas
                              Of course it works-its AGD
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 8039

                              #15
                              The X-valve should be as consistent as the classic valve if you fire consistently. It won't be as consistent, just because you can't have exactly the same time between each successive pull. X-valves have to deal with heating due to their recharge rate. That does affect their shot to shot consistency, although it is only by a couple of fps usually.
                              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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