minimag won't fire... with video.

[XM15]

You switched from a level 10 bolt to a lvl 7 did you also put the lvl 7 brass power tube tip back on? The lvl 10 has a hex and the lvl 7 has a slot that a quarter works good for removing. You also said you replaced the regulator piston. Are you sure its in the right way? It was doing the same thing with the old one maybe it was in backwards too.

[Boltaction]

currently has level 7 powertube tip w/ new o-ring and new o-ring behind the .225 spacer. level 7 bolt and spring. the reg piston is installed correctly with the allen wrench hole facing the back of the gun. I thought bolt stick would be a possibility as well but when i push back on the bolt it does'nt reset the trigger like youd normally get with stick. I've had the velocity pretty much cranked and got nothing, then when i turned it down it pressurized the trigger and leaked out the barrel, i shot and the trigger went back to its sorry, limpy state.

thanks, for the input.

-SW

[BigTrucker]

try the .220 and the .230 spacer and see if it helps. The .220 shold fix the leaking down the barrel, the .230 spacer and that should get rid of the bolt stick. I know it sucks but you will be a mag know it all in no time flat once you plus we fix this.

[Boltaction]

.225 is all i gots. i got a spare AM valve off of here and just took the guts out of it and put it in my MM valve. and thats where I'm at.

I tried the entire AM valve (with the Level 7 innards) in my MM and it pressurized fine but cycled the same way the MM valve did in the second video (moved the bolt but did'nt fire), it also lawn sprinklered so i replaced the teflon in that on/off too and somehow its still doing it?

it's funny because once i get evrything working im pretty much just a sear and a twistlock pin away from having two mags.

friday nights are not for messing with paintball guns tho, im out for the night.

-SW

[Ando]

it also lawn sprinklered so i replaced the teflon in that on/off too and somehow its still doing it?
-SW

Hmm...Is your on/off pin broken? Compare it to the other pin in your spare valve

EDIT:

Better yet. Take a pic of your entire on/off assy (orings and all) and a pic of the pin by itself.

[athomas]

Make sure the on-off top isn't installed upside down (if it is an older valve). The X cut should be facing out of the valve, towards the bottom half of the assembly.

[BigTrucker]

Make sure the on-off top isn't installed upside down (if it is an older valve). The X cut should be facing out of the valve, towards the bottom half of the assembly.

Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. The on/off pin has to be in upside down. The part that has a grove down or facing the rail where the sear makes contact. Do you know witch on/off you have?? Is it round and the same color as the valve or square and made out of brass??

[BigTrucker]

if you give up you can send me your mag and I'll fix it for free. just send me all you level 10 parts and level 7 parts. lmk

[Boltaction]

the pin is in correctly. here some real fuzzy pics of the MM valve components:

on/off


pin and spring


rest of the on/off o-rings in place


power tube contents (obviously they went in the opposite way)


velocity

[BigTrucker]

Everthing looks normal. Just may need to swap out the spacers witch you said you didn't have. Only other thing I can think of is the bolt spring?? is it the gold one??

[Boltaction]

bolt spring is the stock one that came off the level 7 automag valve. looks fine, stick out about a 1/2 inch past the bolt. just reassembled and gassed it up. almost empty C02 (again, lol) and it leaks down the barrel stops when trigger is depressed (no fire probably lack of pressure due to aforementioned C02). im getting my HP tanks filt tommarow so i should have plenty of air supply now (88 and 68 ci 4500).

i really appreciate you guys trying to help me out. i refuse to give up on this. like i said before, its a friggin mag. it HAS to work. I just wanna be able to use the dancing banana smile once if figure this mess out.

-SW

oh and does anyone know the size for the bottom of the gripframe for the ASA or drop to screw in? i tried 8/32s and it was too small 5mm too big.

[BigTrucker]

Sounds like you bolt spring is good, get your hands on a spacer kit to get the other sizes. I'm thinking that you can get your level 10 up in running if you have all the spacers for it. However if you give up my offer to fix it for free still stands. Good Luck!! Oh and all the screws should be 1/8 allan key

[Ando]

I can't tell from your pics but which way is the tip of the on/off pin facing?



That little lip should be on the bottom side of the valve. Should be touching the sear.

If it's not. Flip it around.

[Boltaction]

yep ive had that facing the right way. the brass piece, though, has no "X" on either if my on/offs.

[athomas]

yep ive had that facing the right way. the brass piece, though, has no "X" on either if my on/offs.

You have one of the new assemblies. It has no up or down. The original ones had the X and could only go in the valve in one direction.

Is your rail bushing in place?

Bottom of the grip frame uses 10-32 threads.

When taking pictures, make sure the camera is farther back so that the images are in focus.