In Need of General Knowledge of an Autococker

[DeuceSV]

Unannounced, my buddy brought over a dust-covered black WGP autococker yesterday and said "you like... paintball a lot, right dude? So you could like fix this, maybe?" He got it from his friend for free, so I said gimme gimme gimme.

He'll probably forget I have it soon.

I don't know much about autocockers, and I tried to track the serial number to a year of its release and it seems to be between 2000 and 2001. Serial number is 92431. It appears to have an ANS Gen. X-2 reg, don't know anything about the pneumatics on the front (this is called a "front block" right?), The back part appears to have eaten a small pigeon, cp drop forward and asa. Its a right feed and it has a blue bolt... I dunno, I gassed it up, and the timing looked correct but it wouldn't fire... that's why we take pictures, right?!? Yay! ANY INFORMATION WILL BE APPRECIATED. Here goes:

[kwood]

ill help you out
did you try cocking the cocking rod?
you must pull the cocking rod back before you gas it up
that way the valve seats properly when gassed up

the pneumatics on the front block look to be all stock WGP parts
places to oil...
ASA (just like a mag)
and the little hole on the front of the three way (littlest part on the front block with the three hoses coming out)

you wont really know if it needs timing without being able to fire it
techpb did a great video on autococker tech

do a youtube search for the "autococker show of death" and it should get you there

edit:
found the video for you...hope this helps

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yty2wMSSQDk

[kwood]

as far as the year goes, im pretty sure you are right about it being a 2k-2k1

[BigEvil]

If you really want it tuned sweet, I got a guy I just got my Karni back, and left him Loguzzzzz's to tweak.

[DeuceSV]

Thanks for the info Kwood. I'll do that!

So is this an autococker that is a "quality" product? I heard cockers got pretty crappy recently. If I restore this will it be a good addition to the mech squad? It looks like a lot of fun!

If so, where can I find a shroud? I refuse to play with a cocker without the shroud. I think they look too cool 4 skewl! They hard to come by?

[runningboar]

Thanks for the info Kwood. I'll do that!

So is this an autococker that is a "quality" product? I heard cockers got pretty crappy recently. If I restore this will it be a good addition to the mech squad? It looks like a lot of fun!

If so, where can I find a shroud? I refuse to play with a cocker without the shroud. I think they look too cool 4 skewl! They hard to come by?

My favorite models of WGP cockers are the 00-01s, very much a quality product. As far as a shroud EBAY and the like are really your only hope of finding one.

Looking at that cocker, the first thing I would do is take it apart and give it a good cleaning. I would be real interested in the taking the hammer out and cleaning the rust out, it is probably pretty rusty/corroded and I wouldn't want that crap getting into my valve. Several decent vids on Youtube, and customcockers.com has a lot of info as well. Chris

[nerobro]

Resist the temptation to upgrade. The stock WGP front end from the 98 on is better than most of the aftermarket.

That's a 2000+ cocker, you can tell by the short backblock and curved body sides.

The reg on there is an ANS unireg clone. .... You'd be best off trying to find some replacement for that.

There are lots of videos on how to time a cocker on youtube. My usual method is to remove the cocking rod, and get the gun cycling reliably without actually firing. Then I"ll adjust the sear lug to fire just when the 3way starts to hiss as you pull the trigger.

Oil in the ASA is all you need. And normal maintenance for a cocker is shoving the whole thing, aired up, in the sink with hot water. :-)

[kwood]

as far as a shroud, yeah you can find them randomly in other forums gear bag sales threads
or ebay of course
now there is an aftermarket shroud out there that is really cool and a lot smaller


i think it is called a circle pneumatics cover (circle is the brand name)
they are few and far between but they are pretty awesome
i used to have one on an old naughty dogs e-orracle that i had

[fishmishin]

I guess this has already been stated, but yes that is a fairly durable cocker. It was way before the BE buy out. Keeping the stock pneumatics is an excellent idea, although I like changing out the stock LPR's with a Palmers rock, or micro rock, and maybe trade out the stock frame for something a little smoother with a roller sear.

You stated that it currently won't fire at all:

1- As Kwood stated make sure to pull the cocking rod back

2- Look to see if it has a hole in the top to be able to adjust the hammer lug length. It may be down to far which would keep it from releasing from the sear.

Also this guy has a shroud for $10

[Spider-TW]

You might cruise the sticky's at customcockersdotcom.

[Ando]

I was on the prowl for a pump stock and found a shroud for ya. Not sure if it'll work but looks like it will.

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/m...arts-more.html

[Stingy Mcdingy]

What exactly would the gun do? You mentioned it wouldn't fire but would the back block cock back after you tried the obvious things mentioned above? It's hard to tell how to trouble shoot a cocker without more info. Did the gun cycle at all just not fire ?

I've been tuning cockers since the 90's so I'm pretty familiar with trouble shooting them.