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  • Alpha {MWB}
    Registered User
    • Aug 2009
    • 99

    #16
    Originally posted by Newt
    One (possibly all?) of the mag manual editions says to clean the marker using running water, ie: the shower or outright dunking. However, it adds that the marker MUST be gassed up.
    So no rust issues with this?

    Haven't done the water test yet to be careful.

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    • factoid
      Master of Usless Trivia
      • Jul 2010
      • 457

      #17
      Originally posted by Alpha {MWB}
      So no rust issues with this?

      Haven't done the water test yet to be careful.

      No, not really. I'm anal about drying off my markers after they get wet, but that's just me. The most you probably need to do is pull the valve out and dry off the rail and body interior.

      But personally I pull the entire thing apart, and towel dry all of it. My house has hard water so I don't want that build-up in my marker.

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      • Alpha {MWB}
        Registered User
        • Aug 2009
        • 99

        #18
        Alright gents.... had some problems with my xvalve with rt on off that seemed to be the carriers fault, so we went from a 1.5 carrier to a 2.5 (the 2 felt just as tight). It shot alright, but my bolt would stick forward ever so often. So we stretched my spring out, no problem with that anymore and my rt effect is greater. But i am still having (it was a problem before the spring stretching) a slight leak down the barrel. If i oil it enough it isn't too bad a problem. Also sometimes if i put ever so slight a pressure on my trigger it will stop the leak. What should i do guys?

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        • Spider-TW
          U R techno-literate!

          • Oct 2006
          • 3554

          #19
          Originally posted by Alpha {MWB}
          Alright gents.... had some problems with my xvalve with rt on off that seemed to be the carriers fault, so we went from a 1.5 carrier to a 2.5 (the 2 felt just as tight). It shot alright, but my bolt would stick forward ever so often. So we stretched my spring out, no problem with that anymore and my rt effect is greater. But i am still having (it was a problem before the spring stretching) a slight leak down the barrel. If i oil it enough it isn't too bad a problem. Also sometimes if i put ever so slight a pressure on my trigger it will stop the leak. What should i do guys?
          If you have level 10 shims in there, take one out.

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          • Alpha {MWB}
            Registered User
            • Aug 2009
            • 99

            #20
            That will solve the Barrel leak problem?

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            • factoid
              Master of Usless Trivia
              • Jul 2010
              • 457

              #21
              Originally posted by Alpha {MWB}
              That will solve the Barrel leak problem?

              Very well might.

              Those shims basically just adjust how far forward the carrier sits inside the powertube.

              That affects where the vent hole in the bolt stem meets up with the carrier o-ring. If there are too many shims it will make the carrier sit far enough back that it no longer seals that vent hole.

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              • Alpha {MWB}
                Registered User
                • Aug 2009
                • 99

                #22
                Did it, Took the shim out finially, and still have barrel leak issues. Any suggestions? Adding shims?

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                • Ando
                  Magusmaximus
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 4144

                  #23
                  Send it to tuna bro. . Everything's been gone over for a barrel leak but is still causing you issues. Something is up with it that can't be fixed with out swapping out parts. Very well could be your bolt.
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                  • Alpha {MWB}
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 99

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Ando
                    Send it to tuna bro. . Everything's been gone over for a barrel leak but is still causing you issues. Something is up with it that can't be fixed with out swapping out parts. Very well could be your bolt.
                    What is the price for sending it to him? shipping from 68046 and price for having each of 2 xvalves PERFECTLY TUNED to never chop, and 1 classic with lvl 7?

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                    • Ando
                      Magusmaximus
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 4144

                      #25
                      Not a single clue.

                      E-Mail him at

                      [email protected]

                      Or PM him here.
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                      • Alpha {MWB}
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 99

                        #26
                        which is best?

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                        • Ando
                          Magusmaximus
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 4144

                          #27
                          E-mail I would assume. He always gives his E-mail out.
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                          • Alpha {MWB}
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 99

                            #28
                            I think i will try going down a carrier size before i contact him. The 2.5 carrier flowed nicley and the 2 felt just like the 1.5 as far as stick goes by sliding it by hand. I am hoping this is the problem so then i can move on to getting my mag's lvl X's to be SUPER sensitive on paint... which i will need advice on as well...

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                            • factoid
                              Master of Usless Trivia
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 457

                              #29
                              I have an x-valve that has annoying leaks on anything bigger than a 0 carrier. It feels super tight on the bolt, but that's what it took to get it working.

                              As far as making your mag soft on paint it's all about custom fitting the longest possible spring.

                              Take your long grey spring and start cutting it down bit by bit. It probably won't even cycle at its full length. You'll pull the trigger and the bolt will stay put. Then you start cutting until your marker will start firing at a velocity of 270 FPS. You can go higher if you like. I think my x-valve starts cycling right about 265-270, which I like because if I am on a field with no chrono I know i'm not over a safe limit as long as I set the velocity as low as it goes while still cycling.

                              The level 10 tuning guide also recommends putting on a smaller carrier because the extra friction also reduces the bolt velocity, but by doing this you risk bolt stick. As long as you're using high quality lube like a KC Trouble Free and applying it frequently you won't have problems.

                              My advice is that if you have to lube your gun mid-day on the field make sure you're removing your barrel and dry firing 20 or 30 times, then swabbing your breech out afterwards. That excess oil will coat your barrel and make it shoot like you've had a barrel break.

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                              • Alpha {MWB}
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 99

                                #30
                                Originally posted by factoid
                                I have an x-valve that has annoying leaks on anything bigger than a 0 carrier. It feels super tight on the bolt, but that's what it took to get it working.

                                As far as making your mag soft on paint it's all about custom fitting the longest possible spring.

                                Take your long grey spring and start cutting it down bit by bit. It probably won't even cycle at its full length. You'll pull the trigger and the bolt will stay put. Then you start cutting until your marker will start firing at a velocity of 270 FPS. You can go higher if you like. I think my x-valve starts cycling right about 265-270, which I like because if I am on a field with no chrono I know i'm not over a safe limit as long as I set the velocity as low as it goes while still cycling.

                                The level 10 tuning guide also recommends putting on a smaller carrier because the extra friction also reduces the bolt velocity, but by doing this you risk bolt stick. As long as you're using high quality lube like a KC Trouble Free and applying it frequently you won't have problems.

                                My advice is that if you have to lube your gun mid-day on the field make sure you're removing your barrel and dry firing 20 or 30 times, then swabbing your breech out afterwards. That excess oil will coat your barrel and make it shoot like you've had a barrel break.
                                THIS IS EXTREMELY USEFUL... seriously... As far as lubing, just do that through the asa right? (2-5 drops of autolube? when i run out of that i will start looking at others)(i have learned about taking the barrel off the HARD WAY lol)
                                The spring can just be stretched can't it? a friend told me to just stretch out the spring i had on it.

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