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  • OPBN
    OldPBNoob

    • Sep 2008
    • 5240

    #16
    These threads never go anywhere, but wth. If I were to ask for something it would a significantly more effiicient valve. Heck, if Tippmann can freaking do it....

    Was out at field this past weekend who's compressor was jacked up. They were only filling to maybe 3k and I was up getting fills everytime I walked off the field. I probably filled at least 6-7 times and only went through 1 case of paint. Using a 68/45 tank.

    One of the main reasons I picked up a Mini this week was in case this ever happens again.
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    • warhawks29
      Registered User
      • Feb 2011
      • 13

      #17
      Originally posted by OPBN
      These threads never go anywhere, but wth. If I were to ask for something it would a significantly more effiicient valve. Heck, if Tippmann can freaking do it....

      Was out at field this past weekend who's compressor was jacked up. They were only filling to maybe 3k and I was up getting fills everytime I walked off the field. I probably filled at least 6-7 times and only went through 1 case of paint. Using a 68/45 tank.

      One of the main reasons I picked up a Mini this week was in case this ever happens again.
      Again, it is JUST a thread, a place to leak out that irking issue you have instead of just keeping it to yourself, but I agree a more efficient marker would be great.

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      • leloup
        Mag Addicted
        • Feb 2009
        • 634

        #18
        What would be best is not a reinvented more efficient mag, but a drop in kit for x-valves that makes it more efficient. That way we can use what we have but pay a little for an upgrade. I'd drop $100 on that easy.

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        • Frizzle Fry
          AO Micromag Guy
          • Mar 2009
          • 3280

          #19
          Originally posted by kobeastly
          a grip frame that allows me to adjust the spot on the trigger where the sear rod hits. Lower on the trigger for a shorter, harder snappier pull, higher on the trigger for a longer easier pull.

          Maybe a tunable spring that always pushes on the sear to make the pull softer still.
          Angel IR3... The trigger had 3 holes, and so did the frame; different options for pin placement. Mine has 3 trigger stops and two magnetic returns. Brilliant.

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          • maniacmechanic
            PrestonCoPaintball
            • Aug 2006
            • 3453

            #20
            I like AGD just the way it is , I don't want the AGGS to have My Mags
            Look at our forum over the past few years , AGD doesn't have to come up with any innovations , we have guys like ( in now particular order ) Mongoose , p8ntbal4me , acidcustom , XM15 , hill160881 , Xmagterror , Tuna & I know there are many others i'm missing , the fact is , if there is something someone wants , someone here can build it ( or allready has ) , really if it needed to be redesigned , don't you think someone here would have allready done it , oh thats right guys are doing it all the time , my 2 latest favorites are El Camino's 1st strike mod & hill160881's Mini Gun Mag

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            • captian pinky
              Bearded Works

              • Oct 2004
              • 2755

              #21
              good point sir

              i think that if agd were to change something the should offer a on/off pin kit to control bps to allow them into tourneys.

              also i think that another thing that would be awesome is if they did promote the ak47 side of the gun. I know i cannt count the times that my gun was so nasty i had to hose it off after playing. i think that they should also appeal to recball players. here is a gun that can shoot fast,slow,pump,snip. you name it. and now like the guy above said with all the parts being made lighter mags are not difficult to make.

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              • OPBN
                OldPBNoob

                • Sep 2008
                • 5240

                #22
                I don't think making more efficient would necessarily appeal to the agglets. Making it capable of 30bps, weigh 15 oz, and available in purple rainbow splash might, but as long as it is kept a mechanical semi auto out of the box, I don't see it. Figuring out a way to make it capable of shooting a case of paint from a 68/45 or at least 1k from a 68/3k would simply make it better for fields with only 3k fill capabilities. Mags are, IMO, like hotrods. Out of the box, they are decent, but not super markers. They can be made to perform at higher ROF, be made lighter, and have hot anodizing jobs, but it takes work, much like turning an old car into a street machine. A lot of the younger crowd, want the instant gratification of an off the shelf paint hose instead of taking the time to perform mods that will make it better, faster, flashier.
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                • Drachen
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 130

                  #23
                  Like OPBN said, efficiency isn't neccesarily a big thing with that group. A lot of them still shoot spools, even though most of those are still gas pigs.

                  Though I would like a more efficient mag. That's my only complaint with mags. I prefer all of my markers to be efficient. I don't care if it kicks like a mule, as long as I can get awesome efficiency on HPA. My Ego was pretty decent, but didn't shoot as smooth as my Matrix does. My Viking was very nice, but again wasn't that smooth.

                  But don't limit it to X-valves. A drop in kit that could be used on most any valves for noticbly better efficiency would get my vote.

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                  • M98Punk
                    NYOG President
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 656

                    #24
                    I like my mag because it still is pushed the edge of what mechanical opperation can do. I'd like to see it keep going. I would LOVE a drop in efficency upgrade. I have a micro Pistol build (when other things don't come up) that I have and I went through alot of effort to get it lighter and more efficent on CO2. How about a Alum classic valve with a slower *gasp* but more efficent cycle for those using it for pump or pistol play.

                    I just like the idea of one gun for many uses. kinda like what the army does to a certain extent. Have a good rifle that can fit many purposes easily.

                    That has always been my dream for Mag 3.0 I went back and forth about the pnue frame but to be honest I'd rather have something with the adjustable breaches, vavles, and grip frames so I could just grab it and go. Plug and play with a few different parts, I think that would apeal to all agg and non agg alike.

                    But idk maybe I am alone thoughts?
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                    • fhawkeye

                      #25
                      Been discussing this with people on my team for years. Tippmann (not a fan of them) is making bank with their Phenom with the same exact sellpoints the Emags have (electro/mechanical switch, spool valve, antichop, etc...)

                      What I'm getting at is it's been over 10 years since the emag came out and it is still a fantastic marker even by todays standards.

                      What I believe would really work is a revamped emag, something a little less bulky and a bit lighter with a more up-to-date board with a smaller solenoid and battery.

                      The Vantage Creeds have a function there you can plug the gun into a usb port on your computer and a mechanic can work on your marker via Skype... That's the kind of innovation that could go into a nextgen Emag.

                      Other functions could consist of
                      -the option between the rechargeable AGD or 9volt battery(s).
                      -the mechanical mode could perform more like a ULE or Reactive trigger
                      -Maybe recordings of Tom Kaye saying awesome things coming from the grip like "Your marker is now on, battery at x%, perhaps you should recharge it soon" (if it's low)
                      "How is your mother?"
                      "Battery dying... will i dream?"

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                      • Flatliner333
                        3X MOTY Winner :P

                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1286

                        #26
                        My .02 cents, I think it would be awesome for AGD to create their own thru-grip air stream, no braided line or macro in the way.

                        And it can be done

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                        • Justus
                          Justech.us

                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1515

                          #27
                          Exactly how would AGD achieve a more efficient X-valve? Especially a drop-in-upgrade? If that were doable, I'd drop some cash on it. Getting close to a case on a 68/45 would be very very nice.

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                          • hill160881
                            fire power my friends

                            • Jun 2008
                            • 1156

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Justus
                            Exactly how would AGD achieve a more efficient X-valve? Especially a drop-in-upgrade? If that were doable, I'd drop some cash on it. Getting close to a case on a 68/45 would be very very nice.

                            Redesign the power tube so that it is one piece of stainless, for the entire length. There would no longer be access to the power tube assemble from the front. Instead it would be accessed by unscrewing the entire powertube from the valve.

                            The reason for this is to allow for the bolt to have o-rings added to it that will stay in contact with the powertube the whole time.

                            Just a thought
                            Fire power my friends.

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                            • XM15
                              Registered User

                              • Dec 2005
                              • 279

                              #29
                              I don't think the AK 47 is the correct firearm equal it's more like a AR15/M16. I can' t think of another paintball gun that is as modular as a automag. If you could market it like that with scenario players and mill sim guys you might get some where. The biggest problem AGD has is no TK. He was the creative force for AGD without him it's gone. Until someone comes along like him to resurrect AGD to the mass market nothing is going to happen with AGD. I'm not going to knock who runs things now but that's just it I don't even know the persons name. Who ever is running AGD is obviously content working from home selling inventory from their home business to us die hards that still need parts.

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                              • M98Punk
                                NYOG President
                                • Nov 2002
                                • 656

                                #30
                                Indeed! Indeed! There is no reason why many of the things we talked about cannot be done. Look at the 2009 Micromag.... Limited run yes BUT with that breach style or the one used in the X-mags you could have easy drop in stock class breech, or First strike breech with a tac style body. Also an all ALUM classic type valve with efficiency from a 12 gram in mind. I would end the regardless of how stupid you were, we'll fix it warranty. I mean honestly, buy your own rebuild kit and do it yourself, it isn't that hard.
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