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  • Justus
    Justech.us

    • Nov 2010
    • 1515

    #31
    You can try the red spring (medium) or the silver (long) but I'm guessing you'll get bolt stick again if you use them. Check them first, and order a gold spring if that's the case.

    I have a silver and red spring with my LX too, but can't use them b/c of excessive bolt stick.

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    • Enhander
      Registered User
      • Mar 2007
      • 483

      #32
      Ive got 3 of each kind of spring lol. All my mags run the gold. I thought the red spring was for shooting at higher pressures?

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      • Ando
        Magusmaximus
        • Jun 2009
        • 4144

        #33
        Don't use a silver spring as is. Chances are it's not going to work too well. Athomas has a good "how too tune your lvl 10" in the tech forums here on AO. Think it's on page 68 in the "Official Level 10 Problems Thread". You'll find the answers you need on how to cut and set your silver spring if that's all you have.

        I personally use red springs in all my mags.
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        • athomas
          Of course it works-its AGD
          • Jan 2002
          • 8039

          #34
          As mentioned, when checking the force of the level 10 you need to hold your finger against the bolt, not away from it. The low force acts on only the first 1/4" of the bolt cycle. After that, its full force. that means if you place your finger against the barrel side of the breach, it could hurt.

          You need a chrono to accurately setup your level 10. The force may seem excessive, but if the velocity setting is too high, this would cause more pressure in the chamber which would result in the higher force. If you lower the velocity setting, the impact force will also be reduced. You can't do any of that unless you are near a chrono.

          Once you have access to a chrono, select the bolt spring that allows you to shoot at about 20fps above the lowest velocity setting that the gun will start to cycle at. So, with the velocity turned down so that the gun won't cycle at all, gradually turn up the velocity until it starts to cycle. If you want to shoot at 280fps and the gun starts to cycle at 260fps with a certain bolt spring, then that spring will allow you to shoot at 280fps with consistency and great anti-chop capability. If the gun starts to cycle at 240fps, then you probably want to use a stiffer bolt spring because operating at 280fps (40fps difference) will cause a lot more impact on the ball and won't be ideal for anti-chop. On the other side, if the gun doesn't start to cycle until 275fps, then you may want to use a lighter bolt spring because the 5 fps difference may cause the gun to not cycle consistently and you don't want a finicky gun on the field. If the next lighter bolt spring is too light, then you can cut down a stiffer spring a tiny bit at a time until you get the desired operation. Make sure the cut end goes against the bolt.
          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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          • varq
            Registered User
            • Mar 2007
            • 153

            #35
            my x valve gets bolt stick when I go to fire the first shot. After a little tap on the back of the valve with the palm of my hand it viola it works. (more than just a little tap i have it hit it pretty good with my hand) Try this and see if it works. Maybe its an oring in the valve.. i have never changed the oring on my valve and had it for 5 yrs! amazing

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            • athomas
              Of course it works-its AGD
              • Jan 2002
              • 8039

              #36
              Originally posted by varq
              my x valve gets bolt stick when I go to fire the first shot. After a little tap on the back of the valve with the palm of my hand it viola it works. (more than just a little tap i have it hit it pretty good with my hand)
              This is a bolt stick issue with having a carrier that is too tight. Tapping the valve isn't a solution, but temporary fix to get you going in the field.
              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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