Emag Leak

[CasanovaXL]

I just got an emag that was in pretty rough shape. Gassed it up and switched to manual mode (battery is dead and no charger yet). The gun leaks down the barrel and only stops when I pull the trigger in. I have looked through all the posts and it seems to be a problem with the o rings. I am buying an o ring replacement kit and will redo them all.

The valve is the emag valve

Does anyone have any suggestions other than the rings to fix the problem?

Thanks,

Lance

[Ando]

If you have a lvl 7 bolt, it's either going to be an oring like you said or a powertube (PT) spacer. Buying a regular RT rebuild kit will be your best bet with this setup.

If you have a lvl 10. It's going to be either a carrier oring or the carrier itself (too large). Purchacing a XValve rebuild kit will be best for that setup.

Try adding a little oil at the QD of the valve first (4-5 drops) and shoot it out, that could be all it's needing. Also if your velocity isn't high enough, it will also cause a leak down the barrel.

[CasanovaXL]

Thanks, I think it has a lvl 7 on it. And the ring had blown through.. got it fixed seems to shoot well now.

Can i use anything as a battery pin? it didn't come with one... right now i have a plastic tube in the hole but cant test till i get my charger this week.

[athomas]

Yes, any non conductive pin will work as a battery pin. I quickly lost my battery pins when I had them. I've been using plastic golf tees and lollipop handles ever since. They work great.

[jaron_denson]

I am going to tag onto this thread since it is related. I have an emag with a lvl 10 kit and emax (x valve) in had no leaks what so ever and worked fine but the seals in the on/off were 12 years old and hard so I bought an r/t repair kit. I replaced all the seals that I could and now the mother leaks down the barrel. If I lightly depress the trigger in manual with no battery it will make the leak stop. Then I tried wiggling the valve it makes the leak get louder and quieter a little. WTF?

[Ando]

I am going to tag onto this thread since it is related. I have an emag with a lvl 10 kit and emax (x valve) in had no leaks what so ever and worked fine but the seals in the on/off were 12 years old and hard so I bought an r/t repair kit. I replaced all the seals that I could and now the mother leaks down the barrel. If I lightly depress the trigger in manual with no battery it will make the leak stop. Then I tried wiggling the valve it makes the leak get louder and quieter a little. WTF?

First thing first, lube it. Add about 5 drops of oil at the QD on the valve and shoot it out. If it's still leaking. Fully hold the trigger back. If the leak continues. You did something wrong installing the on/off orings. If it stops, it's your lvl 10 and you just need to go down a carrier size.

Edit: If your velocity is too low it will also cause a barrel leak.

[CasanovaXL]

My leak came back, this gun is turning into a money pit. I will get it working someday, my new rings get here tomorrow and hopefully the electronic stuff by the end of the week.

I have a lvl 7 and i think all the rings on the front end are bad.

good luck with yours

[Ando]

My leak came back, this gun is turning into a money pit. I will get it working someday, my new rings get here tomorrow and hopefully the electronic stuff by the end of the week.

I have a lvl 7 and i think all the rings on the front end are bad.

good luck with yours

Rule of thumb. Always replace orings on a new to you but used marker. There's no telling how long they been in there. If it's your PT/bolt leaking. You might need a new PT spacer if you spacer is the spring type along with a new oring.

[jaron_denson]

First thing first, lube it. Add about 5 drops of oil at the QD on the valve and shoot it out. If it's still leaking. Fully hold the trigger back. If the leak continues. You did something wrong installing the on/off orings. If it stops, it's your lvl 10 and you just need to go down a carrier size.

Edit: If your velocity is too low it will also cause a barrel leak.

I Lubed the freaking hell out of it. So when I hold the trigger down it does eventually stop leaking and when I lightly push the trigger it does stop. What is the QD? Are you positive it is a carrier that needs to be changed? Why all of the sudden?

[CasanovaXL]

for my gun the bushing/ rubber washer behind the spring on the power tube is like jelly feeling. Is that replaced by the oring kit i bought ?

[Ando]

I Lubed the freaking hell out of it. So when I hold the trigger down it does eventually stop leaking and when I lightly push the trigger it does stop. What is the QD? Are you positive it is a carrier that needs to be changed? Why all of the sudden?

QD = Quick Disconnect

When you hold the trigger back, your basically shut all air off to the PT. If you had a bad on/off oring, it would continue to leak which would tell you your on/off orings are jacked up some how. Once you release the trigger, air once again fills the PT chamber and if your oring in your carrier has worn in, it will cause a small leak down the barrel. To fix that you'll need to go down a carrier but make damn sure you keep and use the same old carrier oring (inside white one) or your just going to open up a bigger can of worms.

The wearing down of the oring happens and you should be good for a few more years on that same one.

for my gun the bushing/ rubber washer behind the spring on the power tube is like jelly feeling. Is that replaced by the oring kit i bought ?

Your bolt bumper? It should be yes.

EDIT:

jaron_denson

You sir if you haven't already are going to need a X-Valve parts kit due to you having a lvl 10 installed. The standard RT kits don't come with lvl 10 replacement orings unless they've changed that in the last few years. No mater if your valve says Retro, E-Mag, Micromag....ect...You basically have a X-valve now with the lvl 10 installed.

[CasanovaXL]

Thanks ANDO for all your help!

[jaron_denson]

Thank you for your hwlp as well, so I did replace the oring in the carrier with a new one. So switching back to the old one will remedy the problem?

[Ando]

Thank you for your hwlp as well, so I did replace the oring in the carrier with a new one. So switching back to the old one will remedy the problem?

If you replace the oring, you'll have to retune the lvl 10. If you stay with the old one, all you need to do is go down a carrier size.

Your carriers are labeled with lines and dots. For instance, if you currently have the carrier with 2 lines installed, you'll want to replace it with the one line and one dot carrier but IT'S A MUST THAT YOU USE THE SAME WHITE CARRIER ORING or you'll be needing to retune the lvl 10 again.

.(0 = smallest / 4 = largest)

[jaron_denson]

If you replace the oring, you'll have to retune the lvl 10. If you stay with the old one, all you need to do is go down a carrier size.

Your carriers are labeled with lines and dots. For instance, if you currently have the carrier with 2 lines installed, you'll want to replace it with the one line and one dot carrier but IT'S A MUST THAT YOU USE THE SAME WHITE CARRIER ORING or you'll be needing to retune the lvl 10 again.

.(0 = smallest / 4 = largest)

Alright so changing the carrier down one size definitely stopped the leak. I am still using the original o-ring that was in the carrier but it chokes on high rate of fire and the level 10 seems to be not really doing its job with a piece of rubber fuel line.