Skype tuning

[93klauss]

Wondering if any AO's here might have skype and be willing to help me tune the level 10. I have it shooting but can not find the elusive RT. Have been working on this since winter, or else it goes to tuna at the end of the season.

Thx
Klauss

[Flatliner333]

What on/off are you using and what is your psi input pressure to the gun?

[Justus]

Tuning the Level 10 and the RT effect are two different things. You can have a Level 10 bolt on a Classic valve, and you're not really going to get the RT effect at all. The RT effect is more a function of the RT Pro valve (RT Classic, ReTro, Emag, Emax, X, etc.), a properly set-up on/off, and a high enough input pressure.

[going_home]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0mvr30jKhw

[aerosaaber]

before the higher pressure reg, I would get an occasional RT effect of 1-3 balls.

my exact setup (RT's like a BOSS!)
x valve
standard on/off
1200 psi ninja reg

medusa frame (supposed to have a lighter trigger pull? but I'm not sure on that it's my first mag)

I had a ULT installed but didn't really like it (far to easy to blow through a hopper) so went back tot he standard on/off.

[93klauss]

SETUP

Emax valve
Standard On/off .712 pin
1200 psi ninja reg
CF frame
Remote line

I beleive the problem has to do with the bolt. It will leak down the barrel until I use the smallest carrier. Once on the smallest carrier it does not leak. I oil every time. No shims.

Shoots fine one shot at a time, but I think this should rip!

[Justus]

So you think you might be getting some bolt stick? If it's shooting one shot at a time, without requiring you to manually reset the bolt with a squeegee down the barrel, then it doesn't sound like a symptom of bolt stick.

Have you checked the pressure coming out of your remote line? Tried tank-on-gun?

[athomas]

The problem with remote lines is their inability to provide a large volume of air at high pressure. The remote line acts as a restriction air system. You need pressure and volume to maintain a reactive trigger. Try the bottle directly on the mag without the remote line and see if it makes a difference.

[93klauss]

Best Line

What type of air line allows for the most air flow?

[stevewar]

What type of air line allows for the most air flow?

+1

[athomas]

What type of air line allows for the most air flow?

A short one.

Any line that has a large internal diameter would be better for longer air lines. The problem is that larger id reinforced airlines become very expensive for high pressures.

You can get an idea of the effect of length by blowing air through a 2" long straw. Then take 2 or 3 straws and tape them together and blow through it. You'll notice a big difference in the amount of force it takes to move air. The move air you move, the more friction you get and the amount of force requirement is even greater. The amount of pressure during flow conditions at the receiving end is equal to the pressure applied minus the pressure lost due to the friction. As you make the air line smaller in diameter, the same amount of volume of air requires more pressure to push it through. Since the gun tank has a fixed output pressure, then a smaller air line would result in less pressure being available at the output of the air line during flow conditions than with a larger id air line.

[stevewar]

A short one.

Any line that has a large internal diameter would be better for longer air lines. The problem is that larger id reinforced airlines become very expensive for high pressures.

lol.. anything specific? I am buying a tac vest and want the bottle to be on it. I will pay whatever Ihave to for the remote to work.

[athomas]

I don't know what air lines have the best flow rates or what the specs are. You'll have to investigate that one. I suspect there are a few people around that have tried different air lines.

I have actually seen a few posts concerning air lines and the inability of retro valve guns to be able to go reactive due to the air restrictions. This is not a new thing. For most applications, the air line will work fine, you just have to be aware that there will be pressure loss. The recharge rate of the valve will be affected but should still charge fast enough to keep up to your finger and even 15pbs of a ramping gun. It just can't respond fast enough to provide "full auto" reactiveness.