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  • Pudgey51
    Fat kid approved!
    • Feb 2005
    • 368

    #1

    UMF sleeper?

    so i got a logic UMF frame that im trying to sell but looks like no one is gonna buy it so, i guess ill make plans to use it once fund become more available in a month or 2. anybody got some sick set ups with their frame as a sleeper Pnuemag? Its probably gonna be easier to make a non sleeper but just wanna see what ive got for options if any...it doesnt look ill be able to drill out one of the holes for the asa in the bottom to make this work but anybody got some tips or ideas to share? thanx y'all
  • Ando
    Magusmaximus
    • Jun 2009
    • 4144

    #2
    Get with El Camino.
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    • El Camino
      "The Punisher"
      • Aug 2009
      • 460

      #3
      It uses a Zap Cheater

      <a href="http://s1000.photobucket.com/albums/af122/ambler540/?action=view&amp;current=magstuff002.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af122/ambler540/magstuff002.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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      • Pudgey51
        Fat kid approved!
        • Feb 2005
        • 368

        #4
        Originally posted by El Camino
        It uses a Zap Cheater

        <a href="http://s1000.photobucket.com/albums/af122/ambler540/?action=view&amp;current=magstuff002.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af122/ambler540/magstuff002.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

        so u were able to drill and tap out one of the asa screws to fit an LPR...excellent...thanx man!!

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        • Pudgey51
          Fat kid approved!
          • Feb 2005
          • 368

          #5
          i keep looking at the pic and then back at my frame to see what needs to be done. It looks like u milled our some from the trigger guard, something i also thought about doing. and it looks like u took out the little mounting bracket for the 3 way inside the frame to make room for the LPR, makes sense.

          Now, have had urs anno'd yet or no? im wondering if im gonna have to deal with the loose trigger pin even after its anno'd....

          all in all, looks like urs is set up quite nice...i might try and do it w/o the cheater and use one of the kits i have laying around however im gonna need to find an LPR small enough to fit..

          did u do the milling or did u send it out to someone else?


          sorry for all the questions im just trying to plan here, thanx for any info!

          edit: gonna need a cheater....
          Last edited by Pudgey51; 09-01-2011, 10:27 AM.

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          • sjrtk
            Clown under the bed
            • May 2009
            • 828

            #6
            Talk to loguzzzz he can set the frame for a sleeper set. I talked to him about it befor don't remember the quote. But it is reasonable for his quality of work.

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            • C_losjoker
              Puro Tico
              • May 2008
              • 1121

              #7
              You could always get a battery pack and a lukes adapter and hide the lpr in there. Or maybe mod a gas through grip to hide the lpr in there.

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              • Pudgey51
                Fat kid approved!
                • Feb 2005
                • 368

                #8
                Originally posted by C_losjoker
                You could always get a battery pack and a lukes adapter and hide the lpr in there. Or maybe mod a gas through grip to hide the lpr in there.

                that thought had crossed my mind as well and would probably be easier but it would only be a semi sleeper because the air line doesnt go into the battery pack of an emag.....but it would still be sneaky at first glance...

                i thought about gettin one of palmers regs that look just like a gas thru foregrip and doing a sneaky air line down the rail..

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                • El Camino
                  "The Punisher"
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 460

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pudgey51
                  i keep looking at the pic and then back at my frame to see what needs to be done. It looks like u milled our some from the trigger guard, something i also thought about doing. and it looks like u took out the little mounting bracket for the 3 way inside the frame to make room for the LPR, makes sense.

                  Now, have had urs anno'd yet or no? im wondering if im gonna have to deal with the loose trigger pin even after its anno'd....

                  all in all, looks like urs is set up quite nice...i might try and do it w/o the cheater and use one of the kits i have laying around however im gonna need to find an LPR small enough to fit..

                  did u do the milling or did u send it out to someone else?


                  sorry for all the questions im just trying to plan here, thanx for any info!

                  edit: gonna need a cheater....
                  Yes I did do the milling on the frame and the ASA. You have to mill the frame for the Cheater to fit. The trigger pin I left loose till I got it annoed, but I never did get it annoed, I sold it to someone here on AO. Take your pin and crimp the very end of it in a vice just enough to make it fit tight. I used a Cheater because it is much eaiser to use, but good luck finding one. I still have one left and I'm not sure if I'll sell it or not. Talk right and I probably will sell it.

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                  • Ando
                    Magusmaximus
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 4144

                    #10
                    Originally posted by El Camino
                    Talk right and I probably will sell it.
                    What's up tall dark and sexy, where you been all my life.
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                    • Pudgey51
                      Fat kid approved!
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 368

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ando
                      What's up tall dark and sexy, where you been all my life.
                      bahahahaha!! u beat me to it! i was gonna say the exact same thing....

                      anyway, not gonna lie...i dont know how much they cost, nor do i know what ur looking for in terms of an offer so all i can say is....please be gentle in naming a price if u r willing to sell. If not, its cool, i can try and find some other way of doing it but it wont be anywhere near as cool tho without ur help

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                      • El Camino
                        "The Punisher"
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 460

                        #12
                        Flattery will get you nowhere, unless I get a steak dinner and a movie out of it. otherwise

                        V2 Cheater $105, WGP LPR $20 PPL & shipped
                        The LPR is new (same as the one in the pic, except red)

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                        • rawbutter
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1463

                          #13
                          There's another way to do a sleeper pneumag with a UMF. Actually.... you could do this with pretty much any frame.



                          I stole this design from pneumagger. Basically the air comes in from the tank like normal, but when it hits the T fitting, some of it gets redirected into the Palmer's Stabilizer, where it's regulated down to the appropriate 60 psi. Then, that regulated air goes UP into the ASA and out a little fitting/hose I attached in the back. You can see the hose going up from the foregrip and into the rail in this picture.



                          Pneumagger's setup is even better. He actually has the LP hose barb somehow coming out of the TOP of the ASA inside the rail, so there's no hose visible whatsoever. I tried looking for pictures, but they all seem to be outdated. You might be able to PM him, though.

                          I really like this design, obviously. There's no need to mill your frame so much, and you have more freedom to do what you want with your air lines. The air lines are kinda tight and hard to bend around, but they work.

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                          • Ando
                            Magusmaximus
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 4144

                            #14
                            Well if Pudgey don't take it I probably will. I been looking for a v2 cheater
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                            • Pudgey51
                              Fat kid approved!
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 368

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rawbutter
                              There's another way to do a sleeper pneumag with a UMF. Actually.... you could do this with pretty much any frame.



                              I stole this design from pneumagger. Basically the air comes in from the tank like normal, but when it hits the T fitting, some of it gets redirected into the Palmer's Stabilizer, where it's regulated down to the appropriate 60 psi. Then, that regulated air goes UP into the ASA and out a little fitting/hose I attached in the back. You can see the hose going up from the foregrip and into the rail in this picture.



                              Pneumagger's setup is even better. He actually has the LP hose barb somehow coming out of the TOP of the ASA inside the rail, so there's no hose visible whatsoever. I tried looking for pictures, but they all seem to be outdated. You might be able to PM him, though.

                              I really like this design, obviously. There's no need to mill your frame so much, and you have more freedom to do what you want with your air lines. The air lines are kinda tight and hard to bend around, but they work.

                              thats exactly what i was referring to earlier!!! thank u, i knew i saw it somewhere...

                              as for the offer from el camino....let me talk to my wife on the price...might need a day or 2...or just be really sneaky and ship it somewhere else ..i will let u know VERY soon...

                              and would a gift card to texas roadhouse suffice as dinner?

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