Automag Double firing. Need Help!

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  • steve_81
    Registered User
    • Mar 2008
    • 450

    #1

    Automag Double firing. Need Help!

    I took my Automag Apart today to attach a vertical asa so I could use a gas thru grip and when I put it back together I put a few drops of oil in the on/off ASA and screwed in my tank to test fire it to ensure everything was running smoothly. I noticed that after several shots the marker would double fire and make a hissing noise from what I assume would be the trigger frame. All O rings have been recently replaced. What would cause this?

    Could it be because the thumb screw in the back was screwed in to tight?
    Last edited by steve_81; 05-10-2012, 03:50 PM.
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  • Ando
    Magusmaximus
    • Jun 2009
    • 4144

    #2
    Doublefeeding is going to be either your detent or your hopper at max force. Try lowering the force on the hopper and/or replacing your detent.
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    • steve_81
      Registered User
      • Mar 2008
      • 450

      #3
      Originally posted by Ando
      Doublefeeding is going to be either your detent or your hopper at max force. Try lowering the force on the hopper and/or replacing your detent.
      Thanks I'll try your suggestions out. I was using a Dye rotor, I've used it before with no problem, so I don't know. Also I'm using a metal barrel detent. Should I switch it over to the plastic detent? Is there any difference or benefit using one over the other?
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      • Ando
        Magusmaximus
        • Jun 2009
        • 4144

        #4
        More detent surface on the ball with the plastic ones is about it and they tend to last a lot longer.
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        • steve_81
          Registered User
          • Mar 2008
          • 450

          #5
          I got the Detent changed over to a plastic one and I'll be using my proto primo hopper. I'll check it out first thing tomorrow since it's getting dark and I don't want to go outside and shoot the marker as I live on a Private lake where there is tons and tons of elderly people that will call the police over the smallest of things. lol
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          • athomas
            Of course it works-its AGD
            • Jan 2002
            • 8039

            #6
            Did you remember to put both orings back on top of the on-off?
            Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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            • steve_81
              Registered User
              • Mar 2008
              • 450

              #7
              Originally posted by athomas
              Did you remember to put both orings back on top of the on-off?
              Yea i did. I watched the Tom Kaye video's to ensure I put everything back together correctly lol
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              • athomas
                Of course it works-its AGD
                • Jan 2002
                • 8039

                #8
                How old is the valve? Does it have a universal on-off top or the X-top. If it the X-top, is the flat side up?

                Is the on-off pin oriented properly(flat end inside the valve)?

                Is the rail bushing in place?

                Is the bolt spring worn? You can roughly determine this by putting it on the bolt. If the end of the spring protrudes about 1/4' past the end then you are fine. If it is flush with the end of the bolt, it is worn out.
                Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                • GoatBoy
                  Junior Mint
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 1399

                  #9
                  Uhm...

                  Double-firing, or double-feeding?
                  "Accuracy by aiming."


                  Definitely not on the A-Team.

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                  • steve_81
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 450

                    #10
                    Originally posted by GoatBoy
                    Uhm...

                    Double-firing, or double-feeding?
                    I'd pull the trigger and two paintballs would be forced out. Causing barrel breaks and low velocity shots.

                    I did however figure out the problem. Ando was correct, it was just something simple. I changed out my metal barrel detent for a plastic one and I switched from my rotor to the gravity fed proto primo hopper and the problem went away.
                    Last edited by steve_81; 05-12-2012, 10:15 AM.
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                    • athomas
                      Of course it works-its AGD
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 8039

                      #11
                      I was under the impression it was double firing rather than double feeding. Oops.
                      Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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