Emag solenoid help

[shortysmalls25]

Ok guys ive got my emag and it wont shoot in electronic mode. It cycles fine mechanicaly and i know the battery is still good but im concerned about the solinoid and the board. From what i can tell its still using the original noid and board( using the beta 1.7 software) . The noid seems to still be functioning fine but it wont depress the on/off pin in the valve..... Any ideas?

[knownothingmags]

check the dwell? make sure its higher then 8

but im not to knowlegable out this so...

someone else will prolly be able to help

[OPBN]

I know you said you know the battery is good, but have you actually tested it for output? The battery can be strong enough to trigger the noid, but not strong enough to trip the sear.

[Ando]

I know you said you know the battery is good, but have you actually tested it for output? The battery can be strong enough to trigger the noid, but not strong enough to trip the sear.

This...

I have a few old batteries that don't put out. If it was working fine before and you did no adjusting, it's probably your battery. Find a known good battery, plug it up and test it out.

If it's an original AGD battery, then it's probably pass it's prime. Try to charge it over night, even if the green light comes on a few sec after you plug it up, pay no attention to that. Keep it charging 24 hrs and test it out again

You can take it to a battery shop and have them make you a new one for around $60-80. You'll need the battery and top so the shop can follow the design so don't toss it in the trash.

[shortysmalls25]

Thanks guys. The dwell is set at 20 just to be sure its not too low. And the battery is one of the newer 1000 mhz ones. Can i test the battery w a voltage meter? Or do i litteraly need a good battery to test out the gun?

[athomas]

You need a good power source to test the electronics and to trip the sear. A power supply with a 16.8V dc output that can handle a 3A surge will work.

Make sure your solenoid plunger is the correct length. If it is too short, the solenoid won't have enough power to trip the sear. I believe the correct length is 3.005" from the tip of the plunger to the tip of the clevis (all outside measurements).

[shortysmalls25]

Ok guys do you know where i can get another battery or the specs to have someone make one?

[athomas]

Did you check the battery that you have? It sounds like you have one that was already replaced, so it should be good unless it was left sitting uncharged for a long period of time. If you want to get one made, its just 14 AAA NiMh batteries in series.

[shortysmalls25]

Yeah battery was reading 18.108 v

[shortysmalls25]

Ok tested the gun out on a power supply. Plunger length is at 3.005 trigger rod is at 2.125. Power supply could out put up to 18 v. Hooked the gun up board booted up fine. Gun would not fire on e mode. I manualy tripped the noid to make it shoot once. The gun started shooting in e mode after that until i let it sit for a bit. Then it would only move the noid and not trip the sear. ??????? Help me all knowing automag guru's!

[athomas]

The battery seems like it should be good.

Check the ground connection where the screw holds the board in the grip frame. Take the screw out and clean out the threads, sand the top of the post, and make a good electrical connection.

[shortysmalls25]

Sanded all the metal connections, gun seems to be working alot better when attached to the power supply but it still wont cycle with the battery....... Edit. It still having the problem with the first shot needing to be done mechanicaly then it can be fired in e mode. Bu it it sits long it wont shoot until mechanicaly engeged again

[OPBN]

Take the battery somewhere and have them do a full cycle test. Not sure why its doing what its doing, but you really need to eliminate the battery being the problem before going much further. My previous battery would operate the marker in Emode, after being charged, but quickly lost charge either through use or sitting.

[p8ntbal4me]

Is your solenoid plunger set to the correct depth???

That would be something to check....

[BigEvil]

Increase the plunger length to 3.010. Also make sure your quad oring is not dry rotted. Might be a good idea to replace all of the on/off orings. The pin can hang on the quad oring and the one inside the on/off body.