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  • GR3M10CK
    Registered User
    • Mar 2012
    • 19

    #1

    Mag not airing up right?

    I pulled my mag out to maybe go play some games this weekend and decided to just air it up before I went out. When I air it up it makes that sound like it shot once and that is it. After that it is like I have no air. My tank is full and I cant see where the problem is. There is no leaks or anything and I am at a loss here tracking the problem. Any suggestions? Thanks
  • OPBN
    OldPBNoob

    • Sep 2008
    • 5240

    #2
    Did you try the usual suspects? Some oil in the ASA and fiddling with the field strip screw? How long has it been sitting? What's the setup? Does the trigger reset if you air it down and back up? Any idea of the FPS of the shot its actually getting out? Did you try turning up the reg?
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    • athomas
      Of course it works-its AGD
      • Jan 2002
      • 8039

      #3
      If the trigger is limp, it is most likely bolt stick.

      When you first turn on the air to a mag, especially if it has been sitting for a while, hold the trigger in. Then, quickly release the trigger. It helps a stiff dry oring to seal against a dry surface.
      Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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      • GR3M10CK
        Registered User
        • Mar 2012
        • 19

        #4
        I am running an Xvalve with a lvl10 and ULT. The only thing Ive done to it since last year was install a viperblade trigger on my chimera frame, but I dont see how that would effect anything. I will go have another look when I get home tonight. And the trigger is limp. Never had a problem like this before. Thanks for the help.

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        • OPBN
          OldPBNoob

          • Sep 2008
          • 5240

          #5
          Anytime you replace a trigger, you have to check the sear rod length. Is the sear rod touching the back of the trigger?
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          • GR3M10CK
            Registered User
            • Mar 2012
            • 19

            #6
            I think the problem is with the sear. What should I look for on it?

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            • OPBN
              OldPBNoob

              • Sep 2008
              • 5240

              #7
              When aired up, the sear rod should sit about a business cards width away from the back of the trigger. If it's resting against the back of the trigger, its possibly not resetting properly.
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              • GR3M10CK
                Registered User
                • Mar 2012
                • 19

                #8
                The sear rod doesnt touch the back of the trigger. Ill have to look at the exact length when I get home from work. I tried holding the trigger in when I gas it up and then I can get some shots off and then afte like 8-10 shots (usually) its stops firing. When I pull the trigger it's not limp and I know it is getting air. When I changed triggers before I just took out the pin and swapped tiggers. Is there something else you have to do? That was all I really did on other guns.

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                • OPBN
                  OldPBNoob

                  • Sep 2008
                  • 5240

                  #9
                  As mentioned, make sure there is a business cards room behind the trigger. Have you tried cleaning/oiling it? Air it up, tighten and loosen the field strip screw. If overtightened, they can sometimes cause the issues you mention.
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                  • GR3M10CK
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 19

                    #10
                    Yes everything had been cleaned and oiled. I will check the length and play with the field screw. I tend to have the mindset of screwing it in as tight as possible Thanks

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                    • OPBN
                      OldPBNoob

                      • Sep 2008
                      • 5240

                      #11
                      Originally posted by GR3M10CK
                      Yes everything had been cleaned and oiled. I will check the length and play with the field screw. I tend to have the mindset of screwing it in as tight as possible Thanks
                      That could definitely be your problem. It is supposed to just be finger tight.
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                      • GR3M10CK
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 19

                        #12
                        How much free movement should my sear rod have when not aired up. Right now it moves in and out which is normal, but it also has some play up and down. I am thinking my sear rod is maybe not sitting right? There isnt to much you can do to adjust it other than screw it in and out right?
                        Last edited by GR3M10CK; 05-25-2012, 11:54 AM.

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                        • athomas
                          Of course it works-its AGD
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 8039

                          #13
                          The trigger rod will flop up and down normally when not aired up.
                          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                          • GR3M10CK
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 19

                            #14
                            I oiled everything alot and readjusted the screws and I will still get the sear rod not returning sometimes. Not as bad as before. I went out and played some games with some friends and it happened maybe three times in about 1000 rounds. Would i have to adjust the sear rod in anyway if I put a new trigger in it? It looks like you can screw it in or out a bit and change the legnth? Dont know if that would have an effect on this.

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                            • athomas
                              Of course it works-its AGD
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 8039

                              #15
                              When the trigger rod does not return properly, it is usually caused by bolt stick. Make sure your level 10 is properly tuned. Use the largest carrier size that does not produce a leak. Always use the same white carrier oring in each carrier that you check.
                              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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