Xmag short stoking in E, and a wire question

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  • GRimm
    a.k.a. Greyknight
    • Aug 2008
    • 327
    #1

    Xmag short stoking in E, and a wire question

    I have an issue with my xmag where I get short strokes when I fire my x in E mode at about 15+ bps. It seems to happen about 1-2 times out of every 10 shots or so. I do not have any short strokes at low speeds, only at higher bps as stated.

    Its running 3.2 software with a fire-blade trigger (fires fine in both mech and e, minus the short stroke issue).

    I'm not sure if it is an issue with the sear plunger as it is out of agd specs (3.005" is standard and mine is at 3.019") or if it is a valve issue. I know that fire-blade triggers use a different trigger rod length, but I am not sure if it is the same for the plunger.

    Also, there is a wire coming off my board that looks like an warp intelli-feed connection although I don't believe it is for a warp feed, maybe for another hopper? I'm really not all to sure. It grounds out on the board ground screw and is spliced into the noid's power line



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    • mostpeople
      Registered User
      • Mar 2007
      • 1680
      #2
      Only answer I see is to sell it to me

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        • athomas
          Of course it works-its AGD
          • Jan 2002
          • 8039
          #3
          If the solenoid plunger is longer and still allows the gun to fire, then it should't cause short stroking.

          The wire connection is an electronic intellifeed. It provides a pulse for any circuit that can handle the higher voltage.

          How old is your bolt spring? A worn bolt spring can cause short stroke issues because it slows down the return of the bolt. This gives less time to recharge the chamber, which is the same effect as short stroking.
          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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            • GRimm
              a.k.a. Greyknight
              • Aug 2008
              • 327
              #4
              Originally posted by mostpeople
              Only answer I see is to sell it to me
              I guess that would be one way to solve the issue...

              Originally posted by athomas
              If the solenoid plunger is longer and still allows the gun to fire, then it should't cause short stroking.

              The wire connection is an electronic intellifeed. It provides a pulse for any circuit that can handle the higher voltage.

              How old is your bolt spring? A worn bolt spring can cause short stroke issues because it slows down the return of the bolt. This gives less time to recharge the chamber, which is the same effect as short stroking.
              Ive only had it for about 2 years and haven't had the opportunity to play with it much, so I don't know how old the spring is exactly, It has a medium spring in it, I do have a short spring I can try. My buddy also suggested that maybe I have the wrong size carrier, although I've never had the valve leak.
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                • Ando
                  Magusmaximus
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 4144
                  #5
                  Run your hopper straight on the marker and try it out. The warp probably isn't keeping up with the marker. I see the 12v mod in your future. That "short stroke" your experiencing is probably your lvl 10 doing its job.
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                    • GRimm
                      a.k.a. Greyknight
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 327
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Ando
                      Run your hopper straight on the marker and try it out. The warp probably isn't keeping up with the marker. I see the 12v mod in your future. That "short stroke" your experiencing is probably your lvl 10 doing its job.
                      It's not an issue with the marker being starved for paint, I'm getting short strokes at high bps without my loader on or with the breach removed.
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                        • athomas
                          Of course it works-its AGD
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 8039
                          #7
                          Originally posted by GRimm
                          It's not an issue with the marker being starved for paint, I'm getting short strokes at high bps without my loader on or with the breach removed.
                          That's a pretty good indication that there is some sort of bolt stick due to carrier size or bolt spring. It wouldn't be a bad idea to check the carrier size and see if you can use the next larger one with the same oring you are using now. Once you are sure you are using the largest carrier that doesn't leak, try the shorter bolt spring.
                          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                            • athomas
                              Of course it works-its AGD
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 8039
                              #8
                              Is the X-valve using the short emag on-off pin, or has the valve come from another marker and is using a longer pin?
                              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                                • GRimm
                                  a.k.a. Greyknight
                                  • Aug 2008
                                  • 327
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by athomas
                                  Is the X-valve using the short emag on-off pin, or has the valve come from another marker and is using a longer pin?
                                  It is using the correct length on-off pin, I will try using the next largest carrier to see where that gets me.
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