X-Valve leaking down powertube

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  • jewie27
    Senior Member
    • May 2001
    • 1275

    #1

    X-Valve leaking down powertube

    It's been about 5 years since I last used my X-Valved Minimag with ULE trigger. I recently replaced and oiled the powertube and on/off o-rings.

    I'm getting a bad leak down the powertube and tried changing the L10 carrier to a smaller size. 1.5 seems to be the best when test fitted but it still leaks. Right now it's on size 1 and it still leaks. The spring is medium (red) and there are two shims used in the powertube tip.

    I know it's the powertube because it pretty much stops leaking when i hold the trigger back.
    Any ideas on how to get my mag working again?
  • sQuidvision
    Learning Mag-Fu

    • Jun 2011
    • 823

    #2
    try a different oring in your carrier... is that oring 5 years old as well? could be dried up or comprimised in some way not visible to the eye... That is most likely the oring causing your leak so i would continue to focus there.

    EDIT: also take the shims out and see if that makes a difference.

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    • jewie27
      Senior Member
      • May 2001
      • 1275

      #3
      Originally posted by sQuidvision
      try a different oring in your carrier... is that oring 5 years old as well? could be dried up or comprimised in some way not visible to the eye... That is most likely the oring causing your leak so i would continue to focus there.

      EDIT: also take the shims out and see if that makes a difference.
      i got the o-ring out of a sealed x-valve parts kit that was brand new. I ordered the parts kit a few years ago but never used it until yesterday.

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      • OPBN
        OldPBNoob

        • Sep 2008
        • 5240

        #4
        Did you replace the carrier o-ring and oring on the tip of the powertube? Oil them both and try again. Also, as Squid mentioned, try taking out the shims.
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        • athomas
          Of course it works-its AGD
          • Jan 2002
          • 8039

          #5
          The shims should always be removed when tuning your level 10 bolt. If you changed the oring, you will need to tune it. Use the largest powertube carrier oring that doesn't produce a leak.
          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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          • jewie27
            Senior Member
            • May 2001
            • 1275

            #6
            Originally posted by athomas
            The shims should always be removed when tuning your level 10 bolt. If you changed the oring, you will need to tune it. Use the largest powertube carrier oring that doesn't produce a leak.
            thanks, I will also try to change the o-ring on the powertube tip/cap.

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            • jewie27
              Senior Member
              • May 2001
              • 1275

              #7
              Update

              I changed down to the smallest carrier in the kit (no lines, no dots) size 0 and it still leaks really bad. Like I said earlier, when I hold the trigger back, the leak stops.
              Is it still a powertube problem?

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              • sQuidvision
                Learning Mag-Fu

                • Jun 2011
                • 823

                #8
                Originally posted by jewie27
                I changed down to the smallest carrier in the kit (no lines, no dots) size 0 and it still leaks really bad. Like I said earlier, when I hold the trigger back, the leak stops.
                Is it still a powertube problem?
                the fact that holding the trigger back stops the leak means the problem is forward of the on/off (and more specifically not the on/off itself). Do you have a different carrier oring you can try?

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                • jewie27
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2001
                  • 1275

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sQuidvision
                  the fact that holding the trigger back stops the leak means the problem is forward of the on/off (and more specifically not the on/off itself). Do you have a different carrier oring you can try?
                  i have used two different/new o-rings in the carriers and changed the black o-ring on the outside of them. still on the smallest carrier leaking and no shims are installed at this time.

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                  • sQuidvision
                    Learning Mag-Fu

                    • Jun 2011
                    • 823

                    #10
                    Do you have the bushing installed in the rail? are you %100 sure you are getting everything installed facing the correct direction?

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                    • jewie27
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2001
                      • 1275

                      #11
                      no parts are missing, the bushing is still in the rail.

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                      • athomas
                        Of course it works-its AGD
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 8039

                        #12
                        What is the condition of your sear? Is it worn on the tip? If it is, it could cause the bolt to sit too far forward allowing the bolt stem vent hole to be permanently exposed. Is the level 10 backing washer installed?
                        Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                        • jewie27
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2001
                          • 1275

                          #13
                          Originally posted by athomas
                          What is the condition of your sear? Is it worn on the tip? If it is, it could cause the bolt to sit too far forward allowing the bolt stem vent hole to be permanently exposed. Is the level 10 backing washer installed?
                          i'll break the gun down completely sometime this week. I haven't looked at the sear yet. Yes the backing washer is installed.

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                          • jewie27
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2001
                            • 1275

                            #14
                            the sear is fine.

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                            • athomas
                              Of course it works-its AGD
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 8039

                              #15
                              When it is leaking out the front, does the leak stop if you push the bolt back with your finger?
                              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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