Low Pressure Mag

[FPSmaniac152]

So Im just feeling out the waters. I have a solid design for a low pressure (under 200 psi) automag valve. It would use the same on/off assembly and a similar bolt setup just optimized for high flow. The volume chamber would be larger (to make up for the drop in pressure). Finally, the regulator would be of a more traditional design so that it could be more compact and help make more room for the volume chamber.

If it works, it has the potential to give the Automag the one thing it was missing, efficiency. It would also have a much lighter trigger pull, and with the ULE trigger kit, would probably have under a 10 oz pull.

Should I pursue the design? Any other suggestions? Would you buy one over an X valve?

[knownothingmags]

i voted.

i would say if you can get it to work, and work right, and is done right. go for it.
other wise no thats a terrible idea.

[Henchman]

As long as it would work with a level 10 bolt.

[FPSmaniac152]

No, it wouldn't use the lvl 10, that's the thing, it would be an entirely new valve, new reg, new bolt etc. The only parts retained would be the on/off assembly.

[Freedy500]

This sounds difficult. I hope to see it done but I am worried about whether it will have anti-chop and how its recharge rate will be. But if you succeed then this will be a great advancement in technology in AO.

[BTAutoMag]

sounds like another attempt at a smart mag...


make it low pressure and preform like an X-valve and youll be golden. What have you got to loose besides time and money

[OPBN]

Will it be capable of RTing? If not, it will lessen the appeal for many. Removing the Lvl10 will make others shy away. It will have to have to be capable of keeping up with a 20bps recharge rate to keep the EgoMag guys happy. I can definitely see Pumpers having an interest in this, especially if it's aluminim. Cost is also going to be a major factor. I think more specs on what it will do, what it's capable of and what it will cost are necessary before an accurate vote can really be taken.

IMO, if you are looking at a $300 valve that is not capable of RTing, doesnt have levelX and doesnt have a reasonable recharge rate, the market is going to be very limited.

* Edit. Would also need to know whether it will work with CO2 and HPA? Some of the pumpers/stock class guys would love to have an LP valve, but its worthless if it won't run on 12ies.

[FPSmaniac152]

It would be capable of RTing but it would be much lighter than the current RT mags due to the lower pressure. The bolt would be anti chop (much like Bob Long's pillow bolt). I don't have figures and stats yet as its all just paper so far, but as soon as I can get a working prototype I'll update with them.

I see no reason why it wouldn't work on co2 as long as you can keep liquid out of the reg

[BTAutoMag]

IMO, if you are looking at a $300 valve that is not capable of RTing, doesnt have levelX and doesnt have a reasonable recharge rate, the market is going to be very limited.

* Edit. Would also need to know whether it will work with CO2 and HPA? Some of the pumpers/stock class guys would love to have an LP valve, but its worthless if it won't run on 12ies.

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[OPBN]

I also think that you may have to prove some credentials before a lot of people are going to give this any serious thought. In a nutshell, yes there would be interest, but some seriously smart people put a lot of time, effort and money into designing the AGD valves and other products. It may strike some as absurd that a member who just joined the AO community less than a month ago and only has 3 posts is suddenly going to reinvent the wheel and bring to market an LP valve for the Automag.

[FPSmaniac152]

. It may strike some as absurd that a member who just joined the AO community less than a month ago and only has 3 posts is suddenly going to reinvent the wheel and bring to market an LP valve for the Automag.

I was a member for 2 years prior but I quit for a while when I was in college, now im back and made a new profile. I've owned 6 mags over the years and I just got an engineering degree, I think I might know what Im doing.

[BTAutoMag]

we are not saying that you dont know what youre doing... but this website is notorious for people with empty promises

[OPBN]

I was a member for 2 years prior but I quit for a while when I was in college, now im back and made a new profile. I've owned 6 mags over the years and I just got an engineering degree, I think I might know what Im doing.

Qualifying your post with this information probably helps. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. Obviously, it can be done to some degree considering the Tippmann Phenom valve is VERY similiar to an AGD valve and runs on LP. It has been hinted at that TK may have given some input on its design.

[knownothingmags]

we are not saying that you dont know what youre doing... but this website is notorious for people with empty promises

like me?

[BTAutoMag]

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