Slowing down an X Valve

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  • TimmyJay
    I came to play...not talk
    • May 2007
    • 779

    #1

    Slowing down an X Valve

    I have an X valve coming my way and I want to eliminate the RTing effect. I am going to be running lvl 7. I may get a cap made for the X, but until then what do I need to do? Where should I start with my adjustable tank output pressure etc. It is coming with the RT on/off.

    I think it should be simple, but I tend to overthink things...and I am cheap :)
  • captian pinky
    Bearded Works

    • Oct 2004
    • 2755

    #2
    i would put new on/off orings, measure the on/off pin length. thats at least a start

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    • sQuidvision
      Learning Mag-Fu

      • Jun 2011
      • 823

      #3
      well the ULT was designed to eliminate the rt effect and only costs $30ish bucks. other than that a longer on/off pin and or a lower (but not too low!) tank output and that should get you the desired effect. Also single trigger frames tend to be harder to RT with.

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      • Cokrkilr
        Registered User
        • Jan 2013
        • 377

        #4
        I was going to say what squid said almost exactly... you could also pneu it for about the same cost as gettin a decent single trigger frame, with just enough tinker to wet your whistle. That's 100% getting rid of it, unless you turn the lpr down for some full auto :)

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        • athomas
          Of course it works-its AGD
          • Jan 2002
          • 8039

          #5
          Since you are using an adjustable tank and a level 7 bolt, you can lower the tank output pressure to about 750psi and reduce the RT effect.
          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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          • halB
            Registered User
            • Sep 2002
            • 953

            #6
            I can confirm that an ULT will reduce the RT to almost non-noticeable.

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            • renie
              Registered User

              • Oct 2011
              • 445

              #7
              Originally posted by halB
              I can confirm that an ULT will reduce the RT to almost non-noticeable.
              Really I get 26 bps with my ULT installed :) :)

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              • BLachance75
                Formerly lancecst
                • Jul 2002
                • 582

                #8
                I would suggest pneuing it. The other option is to lower your tank output pressure.

                Personally I find it easier to RT holding higher up on a double trigger, about where your top finger would be. So I'm not sure that getting a single trigger frame would help that much.
                The user formally known as Lancecst.

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                • sQuidvision
                  Learning Mag-Fu

                  • Jun 2011
                  • 823

                  #9
                  Originally posted by halB
                  I can confirm that an ULT will reduce the RT to almost non-noticeable.
                  Originally posted by renie
                  Really I get 26 bps with my ULT installed :) :)
                  the high rates of fire associated with the ULT are attained by shimming the on/off assembly and effectively shortening the pin length. If you do not want any RT effect simply remove the shims from your ULT.

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                  • TimmyJay
                    I came to play...not talk
                    • May 2007
                    • 779

                    #10
                    Can I Pneu it?

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                    • Cokrkilr
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 377

                      #11
                      Depends on how much time you'd wanna put into it. I didn't know it was that frame.

                      It would be super tight in there but you may get away with using the.... I forgot the name.... not the msv2, but the smaller 3 way valve? MAP3 keeps coming to mind but I don't think that's it lol.

                      Edit, its SMAV-3
                      Last edited by Cokrkilr; 04-05-2013, 12:55 PM.

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                      • Jaccen
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 126

                        #12
                        Give it to me and I'll give you a Classic valve.........for free!
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                        • TimmyJay
                          I came to play...not talk
                          • May 2007
                          • 779

                          #13
                          Thats all it is worth to you...a $50 classic valve? It would be better left on a cocker.

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                          • TimmyJay
                            I came to play...not talk
                            • May 2007
                            • 779

                            #14
                            Seriously though...

                            I would be willing to consider a deal with an EXPERT in the Pneu conversion. Hit me up with a PM if you have the proper milling and pneumatic background. I am not looking for a dremel tool botch job. I would like to complete any milling before sending these off for an anno.

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                            • TimmyJay
                              I came to play...not talk
                              • May 2007
                              • 779

                              #15
                              So I got a body and the X valve. I am using my lvl7 ANS bolt and powertube bits from my classic valve and it is tight.

                              I am guessing that I need a bigger powertube spacer. I want to say it had a 220 on it? It worked great with my classic valve, but so tight that I get bolt stick.

                              I slid only the powertube tip on the bolt and it got stuck coming off. Any advice?
                              Last edited by TimmyJay; 04-25-2013, 08:21 PM.

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