MM fps on 400+ not lowering

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  • Chencho
    Registered User
    • May 2013
    • 33

    #1

    MM fps on 400+ not lowering

    so, my minimag... took it to the field to chrono it, and it dont want to go under 400+ FPS.

    Is it the regulator seat? you can see the shape of the valve and pin on it. Im ordering a O-ring replacement.

    is there anything im missing?

    thanks!

    (just shot my first x-valve today... fell in love )
  • Frizzle Fry
    AO Micromag Guy
    • Mar 2009
    • 3280

    #2
    Classic valve or X-valve?

    Was it leaking?

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    • Chencho
      Registered User
      • May 2013
      • 33

      #3
      Originally posted by Frizzle Fry View Post
      Classic valve or X-valve?

      Was it leaking?
      Classic MiniMag valve
      was leaking down the barrel, changed powertube O-ring and leak fixed.
      Last edited by Chencho; 05-26-2013, 07:58 PM.

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      • Chencho
        Registered User
        • May 2013
        • 33

        #4
        Only the leak was fixed, still not going under 400fps. When I try the valve just doesn't pressurize

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        • BigEvil
          www.BigEvilOnline.com

          • Feb 2005
          • 9333

          #5
          That is a pretty serious problem.. I would rebuild the entire regulator portion of the valve. New valve seat, valve pin, and spring pack. Also change the piston oring.

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          • BigEvil
            www.BigEvilOnline.com

            • Feb 2005
            • 9333

            #6
            Do you have an aftermarket velocity adjuster on there?

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            • Chencho
              Registered User
              • May 2013
              • 33

              #7
              Everything stock, even spring in the powwetube.

              So, buy the whole oring kit +spring and pin?

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              • BigEvil
                www.BigEvilOnline.com

                • Feb 2005
                • 9333

                #8
                Originally posted by Chencho View Post
                Everything stock, even spring in the powwetube.

                So, buy the whole oring kit +spring and pin?
                I would. Tell Tuna you need everything but the piston.

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                • Chencho
                  Registered User
                  • May 2013
                  • 33

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigEvil View Post
                  I would. Tell Tuna you need everything but the piston.
                  Alright, will update when I get it.

                  If anyone else has more info I should know, plz post.

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                  • athomas
                    Of course it works-its AGD
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 8039

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chencho View Post
                    Only the leak was fixed, still not going under 400fps. When I try the valve just doesn't pressurize
                    If it doesn't pressurize, it is generally an indication of bolt stick. Since your mag is original with the powertube spring, I suspect you need to install a powertube spacer that is longer than the spring you are using now. If you know someone who has a mag with a level 10 bolt, get one or two of his shims and use one at a time to see if they help.

                    A bad regulator seat oring will cause a high pressure in the front chamber which will result in a high velocity. Usually, the valve will vent air out the back when this happens.

                    I would change all of the orings as a start anyway so that you know what you are working with. Most mag problems are due to a bad oring.
                    Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                    • Chencho
                      Registered User
                      • May 2013
                      • 33

                      #11
                      About finding someone with another mag... When i got to the field players were like "wow, where you got that?!" Lol

                      I know someone with an xvalve, that's about it. Will change all the rings and eventually buy a slavery kit. I'm waiting to come back from the trip I'm going today to drop the money.

                      Thanks for the reply :-)

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                      • splatzone
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 66

                        #12
                        What's up

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                        • Chencho
                          Registered User
                          • May 2013
                          • 33

                          #13
                          Sup splat, trying to get my lil one fixed to go back in the field!

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                          • Spider-TW
                            U R techno-literate!

                            • Oct 2006
                            • 3554

                            #14
                            Originally posted by athomas View Post
                            If it doesn't pressurize, it is generally an indication of bolt stick.
                            What are you guys seeing in "doesn't pressurize"? I don't see how it lacks pressure at 400 fps.

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                            • Chencho
                              Registered User
                              • May 2013
                              • 33

                              #15
                              When I turn the back screw counter clockwise to lower the fps it just "shuts down" it doesn't cock back.

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