Halo B V35 and single detent?

[OPBN]

Anyone else here ever run into issues using a HaloB with a V35 chip on a single detent Mag? I have a HBV35 that I normally use with my dual detented Mags without issue. I get the ocassional dual feed, but usually only when RTing a lot. I did remember trying to use this some time back on one of my TL bodies and having some issues with double feeding, which seems to cause it to stop working and blink at me, etc. Last night I was trying to use it on a Pnuemag that I have with a single detent, and kept getting double feeds and the blinking lights on the Halo. When I switch to my nonV35 loader I didnt have the same issues. I tried using the detent with the thinner o-ring and screwing it in tighter, but it just doesn't seem to be able to keep it from happening. Anyone else ever notice this? I did turn the HBV35 down to the lowest feed setting, but still no dice. It locks up within a short time and breaks like crazy.

[Nobody]

flashing red/green LED means batteries are low. change them and then try. you can also try to take some of the spring tension on the cone out, which would help with detent. also making sure that the detent is strong, would also help.

[OPBN]

flashing red/green LED means batteries are low. change them and then try. you can also try to take some of the spring tension on the cone out, which would help with detent. also making sure that the detent is strong, would also help.

Brand new batteries straight out of a freshly opened pack. Tried the twin 9v pack and the 6 AA pack, happens with both. You can hear it start up, it feeds the balls and then makes a noise like its trying to push the balls and can't. Sometimes it will stack up fine, but as soon as you shoot, it starts double feeding and then shuts down. Not a clue how to take tension out of the cone. It doesnt do this with my 2 detent makers. The single detent works fine with the non V35 halo. Only break I got with that one what when I short stroked it trying to walk the trigger too fast.

[nak81783]

Swap cone springs between your two loaders. Repeat your tests on the problematic marker. See if problem follows cone spring. If so, that's the stiffer spring, which has enough to push past one detent but not two.

Might also want to try each loader (starting with the one pushing harder) on all your various detents one at a time to see if detents vary in strength, as Nobody suggested. i.e. Does it push past one or more individual detents and not the other(s)?

I guess you could also swap motors or boards, whichever is easier for you. You've got a little DOE on your hands!

Does the v35 give a bps for the different speed settings, or is it just a relative slow, medium, fast, etc.? I ask because the slowest setting on the v35 might be faster (i.e. push harder) than the single setting (or current setting, if adjustable) on the non-v35 hopper.



-Nathan

[OPBN]

Oddly, I never sat and compared the two. One thing I am noticing is that on the V35, the cone does not spring back when you turn it counterclockwise, but does on the non-V35. Its like they are opposite. I wonder if I screwed up and put one back together wrong?

As for the speeds, I dont remember the exact numbers associated with the settings, but they are specific. I.E. one blink = 15bps, 2 blinks =20 bps etc.

[nak81783]

Yeah. The hopper is assembled wrong. Without the spring tension, you're essentially direct driving the cone with the motor. Is this another case of reading directions while drinking? Get it assembled properly, and see if that resolves the issue.

Re-reading your post, did you mean clockwise (viewing through loading lid)?


-Nathan

[OPBN]

I havent taken either apart in ages, so they would have been like this for a long time. With that said, the non V35 is the one that is like this and is the one without issues. I also did some further testing and if I stick a chapstick tube into the feedneck of the non-V35, the motor instantly shuts off. On the V35, it take a second or two. Could the eyes or whatever be bad?

[nak81783]

The joy of having two, start swapping parts to find out.


-Nathan

[OPBN]

Going to have to wait until Sunday. Supposed to play tomorrow and just going to take the one that works with the marker I want it to work with. So when the cone is installed correctly it is supposed to have some spring if you try to turn it clockwise?

[nak81783]

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/manuals/...erb_manual.pdf

I know this manual isn't the exact same, but it shows how to properly install the cone.

The cone will spring CCW when turned CW ONLY if the the cone is installed properly AND the motor has not already completely wound the spring.


-Nathan

[Syko89]

Can a cone/spring be put on a halo 2

[OPBN]

Well apparently, I have multiple issues. Took the V35 apart and the eyes were pretty gouped up. Cleaned and retaped them and now seems to work like a champ. Thing is a PITA to put back together. Stone sober took me almost an hour. Yikes.

Yeah, I must have the other one assembled wrong. Might see how bored I get tonight after getting my gear ready.

[nak81783]

Keep in mind, I think Halos were the first true forcefeed hopper with standard mounting. I believe warp feeds were the first true forcefeed. Anyway, Halos helped in terms of bps, but they did leave something to be desired in terms of disassembly. I hate cleaning them too. Maybe I should have put Halos in your post about not wanting to tech stuff. Regardless, they were a step in the right direction towards today's high end loaders.

I drool over the videos of some of the new high end hoppers due to both their bps and ease of disassembly. Now I just need my original Halo B or my Reloader B to crap out to justify buying a new loader. My existing ones keep up fine with the 12.5bps most of the fields I play at allow.

Syko89: I do not know. I've never used one or worked on one. Do you have one? What drive system do they come with, and why do you feel you need to change it? I'm asking because, even though I say I want a newer loader, I like the price tag of the Halo Too better, if one of my current loaders crapped out.


-Nathan

[blackdeath1k]

Halos are the first true force fed hopper. Man people thought they were a god send when they came out.

As for hard to put together. I can't speak for any halo other than a halo too. But them are easy to take apart and put together. Not like the new high dollar stuff. But easy enough.

[OPBN]

Got the other non V35 taken apart and the spring tension set properly. Sound like a freaking tractor now. not sure what I have done wronge now, but I definitely don't remember it sounding like this.