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  • vintage
    Registered User

    • Aug 2013
    • 1787

    #1

    regulators

    are they interchangable?
  • Nobody
    Nobody's Perfect
    • Oct 2001
    • 3384

    #2
    in what regards? on other guns or mags?

    the backs of classic mags? yes

    from classic to Emag/Xvalve/ReTro? no

    a standard aftermarket reg? yes?

    please elaborate on on your question so that people will know what you are talking about so that they can help you better.

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    • vintage
      Registered User

      • Aug 2013
      • 1787

      #3
      sorry, can't think straight, working too many hours. what i meant to ask was are hpa tank regulators interchangable?

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      • OPBN
        OldPBNoob

        • Sep 2008
        • 5240

        #4
        Originally posted by vintage View Post
        sorry, can't think straight, working too many hours. what i meant to ask was are hpa tank regulators interchangable?
        All modern regs are interchangeable. There were some older ones that weren't, but most should be past their lifespan or rapidly approaching it.
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        • Nobody
          Nobody's Perfect
          • Oct 2001
          • 3384

          #5
          any screw in tank regs are easily interchangeable. if you have a PE and want to switch to a Ninja, or something like that, then unscrew and screw.

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          • Drix
            New Hampshire Indoor PB
            • Jul 2008
            • 552

            #6
            Originally posted by OPBN View Post
            All modern regs are interchangeable. There were some older ones that weren't, but most should be past their lifespan or rapidly approaching it.
            This, but also to add (which no-one else has brought up) it is possible to put a 3k reg on a 4500 tank- Don't do that, it's bad. Always make sure the tank matches the reg pressure, If you must mix and match in a pinch, never overfill your lowest rating, and never let someone who is not yourself fill that tank.

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            • OPBN
              OldPBNoob

              • Sep 2008
              • 5240

              #7
              Originally posted by Drix View Post
              This, but also to add (which no-one else has brought up) it is possible to put a 3k reg on a 4500 tank- Don't do that, it's bad. Always make sure the tank matches the reg pressure, If you must mix and match in a pinch, never overfill your lowest rating, and never let someone who is not yourself fill that tank.
              Switch that. Ok to put 3k on a 4500 tank. Don't put a 4500 reg on a 3k rated tank.
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              • Drix
                New Hampshire Indoor PB
                • Jul 2008
                • 552

                #8
                Originally posted by OPBN View Post
                Switch that. Ok to put 3k on a 4500 tank. Don't put a 4500 reg on a 3k rated tank.
                I think the best statement there is to add not to put more than 3k of pressure into that tank.

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                • OPBN
                  OldPBNoob

                  • Sep 2008
                  • 5240

                  #9
                  Whoever is filling the tank should be checking the reg. All regs are marked with max PSI.
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                  • Nobody
                    Nobody's Perfect
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 3384

                    #10
                    better said: put a 3K reg on a 3K tank and a 4.5K reg on a 4.5 tank. don't try to mix and match. that can be an accident waiting to happen.

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                    • Flatliner333
                      3X MOTY Winner :P

                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1286

                      #11
                      I have a couple of questions to add: I have an old Nitro Duck tank with an adjustable reg, it's the one that used the ring cradle 92 ci x 3000 psi I think. The tank is past it's 15 year life so I'm wondering if there is a new same size tank out there I could get to use with reg from the old tank. If not I also have an old Max Flo reg ( not the one that screws into the bottle but the bottle screws into it like an on off Asa) the reg is low pressure and I want to convert it to high pressure... How?
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                      • Nobody
                        Nobody's Perfect
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 3384

                        #12
                        2 different questions have two different answers...

                        Originally posted by Flatliner333 View Post
                        I have a couple of questions to add: I have an old Nitro Duck tank with an adjustable reg, it's the one that used the ring cradle 92 ci x 3000 psi I think. The tank is past it's 15 year life so I'm wondering if there is a new same size tank out there I could get to use with reg from the old tank.
                        the bad thing that NitroDuck tanks have is that PMS/Nitroduck used a different threading from other companies that produced HPA tanks. its 5/8ths where the world is 3/4ths or vice versa. so you may or may not be able to find a tank in hydro for that reg.

                        Originally posted by Flatliner333 View Post
                        If not I also have an old Max Flo reg ( not the one that screws into the bottle but the bottle screws into it like an on off Asa) the reg is low pressure and I want to convert it to high pressure... How?
                        i am not hugely familiar with the old Maxflos but i do know that you would have to change the main spring pack to go from low pressure to high. now, the bigger question is finding an HP spring pack for replacement. i'd look at I&I and some of the older stores that collected older parts like that.

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                        • Flatliner333
                          3X MOTY Winner :P

                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1286

                          #13
                          The spring that is in it now is pretty stiff but it has a low pressure gauge on it. I guess the High pressure spring is even stiffer ?
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                          • athomas
                            Of course it works-its AGD
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 8039

                            #14
                            Flatliner333:

                            Its not just a spring that is needed. The smart parts manifold style regulators need a different manifold body and piston as well in order to change from low pressure to high pressure. The newer inline regulators needed just the front section that screwed into the manifold body and also the high pressure piston and spring, which made the change a bit easier and less expensive.

                            The original manifold style regulators used unregulated bottles with left hand threads. The newer manifold style regulators used regulated bottles with standard ASA threads.
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