RT effect : how to tune the marker ?

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  • maverick13
    Registered User
    • Aug 2011
    • 534

    #1

    RT effect : how to tune the marker ?

    Hello,

    I spent a moment looking for a thread teaching how to obtain the best RT effect, but I didn't found.

    As I just bought a scuba, I checked all my markers. Almost all of them worked fine and I fixed the others.

    But I noticed something :
    I've many valves, retro, rt pro and X, with the same tank with ninja shp reg, some RT like beast others just shoot fine.

    Here is where I need your help :

    What may I do to get a nice RT effect with all my valves ?

    The same with my emag/xmag in mechanical mode, my xmag RT the 2 emags don't ?

    What can I do with these too ?

    Thanks for your help.
  • vintage
    Registered User

    • Aug 2013
    • 1787

    #2
    i'm no expert but from what I have picked up since being on this forum is the on/off pin length can be the determining factor on how much rt you get. you might switch the on/off assemblies around and see if it changes your rt effect. that's where I would start.

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    • captian pinky
      Bearded Works

      • Oct 2004
      • 2755

      #3
      It's more based on how broken in the orings are. Some valves can rt at 850psi some at 1400psi. Pin length does matter but to short and you will get premature wear. Then you will have to replace sears and bolts. Best thing you can do is oil and play.

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      • athomas
        Of course it works-its AGD
        • Jan 2002
        • 8039

        #4
        Pin length is probably the difference in your setups. The emags will be different, because the solenoid assembly has mass and does affect the force by/on the trigger. You can tune the on-off assemblies in your mechanical markers by adding one or two ULT shims between the on-off halves. It will simulate a shorter on-off pin.
        Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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        • maverick13
          Registered User
          • Aug 2011
          • 534

          #5
          Thanks guys.
          I'll check all is oiled but I'm almost certains it is, and I'll try to add shims.
          I'll let you know.

          Typing error corrected ! Thanks OPBN !!!!!!!!
          Last edited by maverick13; 05-29-2014, 06:16 AM.

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          • OPBN
            OldPBNoob

            • Sep 2008
            • 5240

            #6
            Originally posted by maverick13 View Post
            Thanks guys. I'll try to ass shims.
            I'll let you know.
            Might want to keep that to yourself!!! Lol
            My AO Feedback

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            • Syko89
              Registered User


              • Jul 2012
              • 643

              #7
              Originally posted by OPBN View Post
              Might want to keep that to yourself!!! Lol
              we know what someone's text prediction feature is used to using

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              • Laku
                Registered User

                • Nov 2012
                • 940

                #8
                This might help as well. http://www.zakvetter.com/pages/paint...rapidfire.html

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                • BigEvil
                  www.BigEvilOnline.com

                  • Feb 2005
                  • 9333

                  #9
                  Let me know if you can view this.

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                  • maverick13
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 534

                    #10
                    Thanks Laku

                    I bookmark this page !

                    @ Bigevil : No I can't, I've an error message

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                    • BigEvil
                      www.BigEvilOnline.com

                      • Feb 2005
                      • 9333

                      #11
                      Originally posted by maverick13 View Post
                      Thanks Laku

                      I bookmark this page !

                      @ Bigevil : No I can't, I've an error message
                      It's from my Facebook page. I will upload it somewhere and repost

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                      • Syko89
                        Registered User


                        • Jul 2012
                        • 643

                        #12
                        I had my emag going like that then the next day it hardly rt at all

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                        • BigEvil
                          www.BigEvilOnline.com

                          • Feb 2005
                          • 9333

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Syko89 View Post
                          I had my emag going like that then the next day it hardly rt at all

                          There are a few factors,

                          #1 Input pressure: Did you use a different tank?
                          #2 friction on the on/off pin: Did the on/off orings swell, are they old, or did they need some oil?
                          #3 Did the solenoid plunger break loose and go out of spec, or bend? That effects it as well.
                          #4 Same thing for the trigger rod?
                          #5 Did you over tighten the sear axle or either of the frame screws?

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                          • Syko89
                            Registered User


                            • Jul 2012
                            • 643

                            #14
                            Try this on bt automags

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                            • vintage
                              Registered User

                              • Aug 2013
                              • 1787

                              #15
                              1600!!!!!!!!!!!! wow! I thought my 1200 was radical

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