Project path decision?!

[Pneumagger]

Depending on your frame, if you want to do an electro and hide the lpr, consider one of Luke's foregrop options. Not many grips can hide an lpr and battery... And even then you might have to put a small board in the rail.

[Merce]

Who can mill a umf frame to fit a pancake noid for me?

[Spider-TW]

Who can mill a umf frame to fit a pancake noid for me?

Beware of that road. Most of the successful solenoid-only-mags have been constructed from frames designed to hold and power larger solenoids, like the spyder frames and hyper frames. In theory, a smaller solenoid can trip a ULT, but there's not much room for sticky o-rings or low batteries.

[Merce]

Beware of that road. Most of the successful solenoid-only-mags have been constructed from frames designed to hold and power larger solenoids, like the spyder frames and hyper frames. In theory, a smaller solenoid can trip a ULT, but there's not much room for sticky o-rings or low batteries.

That's why I'm asking. I certainly do not have the profciency to do any of that myself. I have been doing a lot of research and might have found the solution to not needing to mill a space for the larger noid at the top. And on that note, any one know how the force of an 98s noid is compared to the spyder noids?

[Pneumagger]

Spyder Noids can fit in UMF frames pretty well if you mill the frame out for it. They are also cheap and plentiful. The grips have to be hollowed out a little bit though as well. The real space constraint is the Capacitor. If you can fit the Board up inside the rail, that makes it a bit easier.

[Merce]

If you can fit the Board up inside the rail, that makes it a bit easier.

Got an example picture of this?? I'd assume it'd have to be small like a utb or something

[sjrtk]

Merce,

Be for you cut into the frame contact P8ntbal4me here. IIRC he may still have the cads for cutting the solenoid pocket in a UMF. But if you are gonna attempt it I have a pnue'd UMF that I would trade with you be for cut a clean UMF.

[correia3]

Merce,

Be for you cut into the frame contact P8ntbal4me here. IIRC he may still have the cads for cutting the solenoid pocket in a UMF. But if you are gonna attempt it I have a pnue'd UMF that I would trade with you be for cut a clean UMF.

I think luke did or was going to do the milling for p8nt so he may be able to help also. P8nt would also be a good source for questions regarding the electronics. He really knows his stuff.

[Merce]

Merce,

Be for you cut into the frame contact P8ntbal4me here. IIRC he may still have the cads for cutting the solenoid pocket in a UMF. But if you are gonna attempt it I have a pnue'd UMF that I would trade with you be for cut a clean UMF.

Thank you. I planed on trading with pneumagger though. I may have to follow up on the P8ntbal4me reference though.

I think luke did or was going to do the milling for p8nt so he may be able to help also. P8nt would also be a good source for questions regarding the electronics. He really knows his stuff.

Pneumagger has been helping me the most with regards to electronics but once again I'll have to check with P8nt for more perspectives as well. And also Luke possibly. though I think I've been bugging him a lot lately lol.

Speaking of Luke's customs, I read earlier about a UMF frame on a am/mm rail with a foregrip via one of Luke's foregrip extenders. Does anybody have any pictures of how this would look? It was an old post with inactive photo links :/ OH! also on the not of foregrips, how would one go about cutting down the length of a carbon fiber tube?(ie the cf tube of a dw fg, 1st gen)

[Pneumagger]

If I were putting a UMF on an AM/MM rail, I'd use a CCI Phantom VSC angled ASA for the foregrip - just modify the frame and ASA to work together. I'm not a fan of the foregrip extender look... at that point just get the longer rail.

If you want to put a board in the rail, I think it'd almost have to be a RTP rail. A UTB is small, but has sort of a thick connector so it might not fit into a rail. I literally just asked for a stock ION board from the PBN WTB forums and got one for free. I stripped the switch, Cap, and solenoid... relocated the switch and cap into the frame with wires and stuck the ion board in the rail. I positioned the ION button behind one of the holes already in the RTP rail so you could turn it on by poking the button through the hole - lol.

This is an EP Mag, but the ION board is in the rail:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Paintball%20Stuff/Mag%20Projects/480874da.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Paintball%20Stuff/Mag%20Projects/Picture3.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Paintball%20Stuff/Mag%20Projects/Picture276.jpg

Or you could just go crazy with the mill and make more board space behind the battery:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/jrm33/Paintball%20Stuff/Mag%20Projects/Picture11.jpg

IMO, going pneumatic is probably easier but slightly more costly and there will be more tuning involved.
Going with a sear tripping solenoid will take more work fitting and cutting, but should be a little more trouble free.

[Merce]

If I were putting a UMF on an AM/MM rail, I'd use a CCI Phantom VSC angled ASA for the foregrip - just modify the frame and ASA to work together. I'm not a fan of the foregrip extender look... at that point just get the longer rail.

The vsc just has it mounted to the trigger frame right? Pretty similar to that logic ripper on the what's it worth thread if I'm correct. Its hard trying to figure out some of the layout stuff when I'm still waiting on the actual items to get here.

[Pneumagger]

yes. I have both a VSC kit at home and a UMF. I can see how involved it might be if nobody else already knows.

[Pneumagger]

How about these:



Trigger MicroSwitch Slot and Second Hole For Solenoid Bottom Block:


Solenoid Pocket:

[Merce]

That'll definitely be useful later on. Thank you pneu

[sjrtk]

Thank you. I planed on trading with pneumagger though. I may have to follow up on the P8ntbal4me reference though.

Hey no problem just wanted to make sure the option was out there.