Lubrication Options

[Qoph]

All right, thanks both of you. For the matter of the balls getting greasy, I get that. However, oil is always going through the entire marker. You just shoot out the excess before starting play.

With the grease, there shouldn't be excess to shoot out. If it does come down the barrel, then it probably happens so slowly as to not matter. I'm just saying how I picture it. Please let me know if there's an error there. I haven't used grease in any of my markers before.

Hoppe's regular oil doesn't contain solvent. They do have products that use solvents, but not their standard No. 9. Which is what I've got. Still, the oil itself can slowly deteriorate plastics, I believe. You don't find those inside a firearm, so it's perfectly fine in that case.

[athomas]

All right, thanks both of you. For the matter of the balls getting greasy, I get that. However, oil is always going through the entire marker. You just shoot out the excess before starting play.

With the grease, there shouldn't be excess to shoot out. If it does come down the barrel, then it probably happens so slowly as to not matter. I'm just saying how I picture it. Please let me know if there's an error there. I haven't used grease in any of my markers before.

Oil isn't always going through the entire marker, only when you first dump a bunch of oil into it. You only want enough oil to wet the orings. More than that will get blown out, which is what you want. You want to make sure no excess oil is left before you put the barrel on, or it will get coated.

There shouldn't be any grease inside a mag valve. The only place grease is applied is on the regulator spring in the velocity adjuster. That grease won't get into the valve, so it isn't an issue.

The biggest oil and grease problem people have with their mags is that they grease or oil the bolt and bolt spring. That grease or oil will get in the breach and barrel area and cause accuracy issues. The bolt spring and bolt should be dry at all times.

[cockerpunk]

its just synthetic air tool oil.

[JKR]

My KC Trouble Free bottle is about empty. Switching over completely to this once it is empty...

http://www.super-lube.com/synthetic-oil-with-ptfe-high-viscosity-ezp-56.html

[SeeK]

Their product comparison chart should be useful for anyone still on the fence about synthetic and silicone:

http://www.super-lube.com/files/pdfs/Super_Lube_Compatibility_Chart.pdf

[athomas]

I'm not sure lubricants with PTFE are the best choice. PTFE compounds work best in low speed operations where you have metal to metal contact. The PTFE compounds act like tiny ball bearings to carry the load. In a mag valve, there is no metal to metal contact. You are relying on the oring to seal and provide the load carrying surface. All you need is a lubricant for it. Use a good light oil with no PTFE additives. The Super Lube oils are fantastic oils and greases. Use the non-PTFE version of the Super Lube listed in the link above, and you would be good to go.

The PTFE lubricants may work fine, but you are adding compounds that are designed for a completely different function. PTFE compounds work best in grease type applications, or if you want to get grease like lubricating properties in areas that cannot be reached using normal greasing techniques.

[JKR]

I'm not sure lubricants with PTFE are the best choice. PTFE compounds work best in low speed operations where you have metal to metal contact. The PTFE compounds act like tiny ball bearings to carry the load. In a mag valve, there is no metal to metal contact. You are relying on the oring to seal and provide the load carrying surface. All you need is a lubricant for it. Use a good light oil with no PTFE additives. The Super Lube oils are fantastic oils and greases. Use the non-PTFE version of the Super Lube listed in the link above, and you would be good to go.

The PTFE lubricants may work fine, but you are adding compounds that are designed for a completely different function. PTFE compounds work best in grease type applications, or if you want to get grease like lubricating properties in areas that cannot be reached using normal greasing techniques.

You could be right but I have a 4 oz bottle already an I am going to roll with it. My 1911 should love it too and since it won't damage orings, I figure it won't hurt anything. Hey, a drop on the power tube and the bolt should move like butter!

[SpyderBoy]

There were little globs of grease on the bolt and trigger when I got it. It was green.

That was probably Hater Sauce which is a high quality green grease. I use it on the triggers and regulators for my markers. Super slick and very stable.