What is the maximum safe PSI inside the chamber of an automag lvl 7 valve ?

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  • VirpZ
    Registered User
    • Mar 2013
    • 15

    #1

    What is the maximum safe PSI inside the chamber of an automag lvl 7 valve ?

    Alright, I want to know what is the maximum safe PSI inside the dump chamber of an automag 68 valve ?
    Last edited by VirpZ; 10-26-2015, 08:18 PM.
  • MANN
    I am in TN. GO VOLS.
    • Apr 2006
    • 4266

    #2
    are you bypassing the regulator? You can hook 3000psi up to a valve. The regulator(back half of the valve) will dial it down from that.

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    • nak81783
      Registered User
      • Nov 2001
      • 782

      #3
      Well above the pressure at which the regulator piston safety feature would begin leaking.

      The recent questions like this make me uncomfortable. Respectfully, may I ask what you are trying to achieve?
      Last of the Salzburg Clan

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      • VirpZ
        Registered User
        • Mar 2013
        • 15

        #4
        Originally posted by nak81783
        Well above the pressure at which the regulator piston safety feature would begin leaking.

        The recent questions like this make me uncomfortable. Respectfully, may I ask what you are trying to achieve?
        Yes, the pressure regulator has been bypassed and I am using an external one to regulate the dump chamber. The application is not related to paintball an I will have no bolt action, just gas/air pressure.

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        • Cyco-Dude

          #5
          these valves were designed for paintball use, so the chamber is built to withstand normal pressures at which it would be operated. if you want to use one for something else, that's your business, but you're on your own.

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          • VirpZ
            Registered User
            • Mar 2013
            • 15

            #6
            I am not trying to propel paintballs at 800 fps, I just want to launch some low density stuff to the 10+ yards mark.

            While I know the regulator can handle pressures up to 3000 PSI I don't think it means that you can have pressures like 3000 PSI going on INSIDE the regulator chamber.

            Originally posted by Cyco-Dude
            these valves were designed for paintball use, so the chamber is built to withstand normal pressures at which it would be operated. if you want to use one for something else, that's your business, but you're on your own.
            Sure this piece of information you posted will be really helpful to somebody else . Don't get too fragile, I am not trying to be disrespectful.
            Last edited by VirpZ; 10-30-2015, 09:39 AM.

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            • knownothingmags
              RKM 3D Designs

              • Apr 2010
              • 4810

              #7
              Originally posted by VirpZ

              Sure this piece of information you posted will be really helpful to somebody else .
              little respect goes along ways.


              watch 34 cps rt valve
              3000 input
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              • VirpZ
                Registered User
                • Mar 2013
                • 15

                #8
                Please, don't get too fragile, I never meant to hurt anybody feelings.


                Anyone willing to help me out here ?

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                • knownothingmags
                  RKM 3D Designs

                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4810

                  #9
                  Originally posted by VirpZ
                  Please, don't get too fragile, I never meant to hurt anybody feelings.


                  Anyone willing to help me out here ?
                  :rofl:

                  so you can feed the valve all day at 3000psi.
                  what other info do you need.

                  of course if you apply the valve to an application that it wasn't designed for, it could result in catastrophic failure.

                  definitely here to help
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                  • nak81783
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 782

                    #10
                    Originally posted by VirpZ
                    Please, don't get too fragile, I never meant to hurt anybody feelings.


                    Anyone willing to help me out here ?
                    Again, respectfully, why would you trust someone's answer on an Internet forum when the end result could be a pipe bomb? If you don't know about or how to calculate things like hoop, radial, and axial stress of a pressure vessel, material yield strengths, etc., you should only let someone with PROOF of proper credentials and insurance provide that information.
                    Last of the Salzburg Clan

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                    • knownothingmags
                      RKM 3D Designs

                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4810

                      #11
                      Originally posted by nak81783
                      Again, respectfully, why would you trust someone's answer on an Internet forum when the end result could be a pipe bomb? If you don't know about or how to calculate things like hoop, radial, and axial stress of a pressure vessel, material yield strengths, etc., you should only let someone with PROOF of proper credentials and insurance provide that information.
                      couldn't have said it better.
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                      • waffles2
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 1

                        #12
                        Originally posted by VirpZ
                        I am not trying to propel paintballs at 800 fps, I just want to launch some low density stuff to the 10+ yards mark.
                        I think we all lost track of what he is trying to do. There is no need for anywhere near 3000psi to launch LD items ten yards, unless it something like packing peanuts. My advice is that you input 1000 psi and adjust the valve for the desired distance.

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                        • nak81783
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 782

                          #13
                          But knowing the properties of the projectile is part of the equation! That is why I stated to have a credentialed individual do the math, FEA, etc. Said person would know all the variables to factor in.
                          Last of the Salzburg Clan

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                          • VirpZ
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 15

                            #14
                            Originally posted by waffles2
                            I think we all lost track of what he is trying to do. There is no need for anywhere near 3000psi to launch LD items ten yards, unless it something like packing peanuts. My advice is that you input 1000 psi and adjust the valve for the desired distance.
                            From yours and some older posts I found it seems to be ok to have 800- 1000 PSI inside the dump chamber. Will give it a try.

                            That equation starts with volume times pressure = energy.

                            Thank you.
                            Last edited by VirpZ; 10-30-2015, 08:43 PM.

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                            • ChristianFromPitt
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 32

                              #15
                              What is the best material to devolumize a mag to use 12 grams on a classic valve?

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