Gun won't fire

[Sandman]

Missing c-clip will cause the issue.
Springs are stacked like this ()()()()() 10 disc springs.

C-clips come in X-valve kits.
Obviously AGD has them, so does Tuna.

[athomas]

I thought the only C-clip (split washer) in the kits were the white plastic ones that go between the two orings. I think the black metal one is part of the pin assembly and isn't a consumable item. I could be wrong, but it bears asking the question just in case. I know I don't have any of those black c-clips, and I have a couple of RT oring kits in my possession.

[Sandman]

C-clips come in X-valve kits.

That is the metal clip that holds the regulator valve pin assembly stack together.
They are not listed available independently as a solo part, but they are in that parts kit.

Probably list them on the site solo in the near future and may add them to other parts kit.

[philip]

First off, thanks for all of the awesome help! I got an entire new regulator valve pin assembly and swapped it out. This did not fix the problem. As someone else suggested I added two level 10 shims and the gun just turned into a fart machine. I took one of the two shims and we are back to the 1 cycle per second recharge rate. What else could cause the valve to take a long time to recharge?

[athomas]

Where did you add the shims? In the powertube, or in the on-off?

[philip]

Powertube

[athomas]

This indicates that it isn't a powertube issue. Its most likely that your problem is the on-off pin length or some other related issue.

[Sandman]

Philip,
I hate to say but it sounds as though something is assembled wrong, the wrong oring is used somewhere or the wrong part. Something simple is fundamentally wrong here.

Lay it all out. Go through it very slow and methodically. Make sure everything is the correct oring and placement. It will work if everything is correct.

Channel your inner Zen....

[Sandman]

Last, but not least, since this is a frankenstein gun, I think athomas nailed it in his last post too.
If the gun is:
1)assembled properly and all parts are there and the gun is still not firing
2)even though the trigger rod is coming out and you feel resistance when you pull the trigger.

Then measure your on/off pin. If it is stock at .750, then shorten it to a .745 and then a .740 until it fires...
It has to eventually fire if you have gas coming into the on/off and you keep shortening the pin.....it has to.