Level 10 oddball leak troubleshooting - Update - figured out

[Pghp8ntballer]

With all of his components including his on/off but with my level 10 kit, it dry-fired leak free and I chrono'd one ball at 283.

Hopefully ill get some time with it tonight

[ChristianFromPitt]

Tanks for your work on this.

I should have left the level 10 bolt alone, but having a tiny leak bothered me as in big games, a leaking marker means the longer you play, the less air you have to return fire.


Hopefully with new o-rings the leak subsides and the marker works like a dream. The polished look is real nice and with a level 10 bolt, she is completely modded to my liking.

Then I can buy that mag pistol and tinker with her after we get this up and running

[Nobody]

With a small leak in a mag, the 1st thing you should do is, 3-4 drops of oil in the valve(through the ASA or through the inlet) and this will take care of 90% of all leaks. The other 10% are either the orings in the on/off or powertube.

[Pghp8ntballer]

Oil in the ASA was the very first thing we tried. Lol.

[Pghp8ntballer]

The problem has been identified and corrected. The level 10 still needs tuned. Even with the smallest carrier, it still leaks. But the bizarre issue is fixed. More info will follow shortly.

[Pghp8ntballer]

Here we go. Thanks to all that offered thoughts and suggestions. I still need to get the new o-rings in and set up the level 10.

Here is a video of Christian's mag complete, his on/off, etc but with the complete level 10 kit from my mag. It is fully operational and leak free.
Nothing else was done to the mag aside from putting my L10 kit on it.

Test 1

In this video, the mag is all its own pieces, but I took the bolt off and aired up as suggested. No leaks with the trigger held down and an ear piercing air leak when the trigger is released.

Test 2

Last video shows his mag complete with his L10 pt tip and carrier, but my bolt. Leak free with the trigger held down, but leaks down barrel when its released.

Test 3


Laku was correct with his suggestion to compare parts. Christian's bolt center post had backed out causing the bizarre leak from the original post. A quick trip to the vise corrected it. It seems to be a press fit. Here are the before and after pics. My bolt is on the right in both pics.





Can anyone explain to me how exactly the extended bolt tip interferes with the marker operation in such a crazy manner? A diagram would be nice :)

I even put his bolt in my mag and tested just to make sure the bolt was ok.

[blackdeath1k]

Laku is an intelligent man even if he does live in Finland. :-P

Seriously though. Glad you found your problem and got it corrected.

[Laku]

I'm guessing the stem got backed out enough to pass the start of that narrow part (see pic below) behind the carrier and allow leak. Also it seems to have prevented the sear from catching the bolt and make it go full auto.
At least that's my theory of it.

[Pghp8ntballer]

Works for me! Thanks again!

[ChristianFromPitt]

Wow I am impressed you figured this out P8nt.


I was thinking about this last night and thought, it has to be the bolt. The level 7 bolt didn't leak at all.


Thanks for getting this tuned and setup.

[Pghp8ntballer]

No problem! As much as it is a head scratcher, I do enjoy doing it. Thanks for leaving it here. If you had taken the mag with you, it may have been a lot more drawn out. I needed to actually compare the bolts to see it.

[Tunaman]

when the bolt stem comes out again, mail it back to AGD for a new one. It shouldnt come out.

[Pghp8ntballer]

Even if it was bought used?

[Tunaman]

Even if it was bought used?

yes

[Pghp8ntballer]

Awesome! Thanks for that info sir!