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  • kutter
    Half a bubble off...
    • Dec 2001
    • 251

    #1

    Adjustable Output Regs

    Ok, I am a bit dumfounded here. So I have a Micromag RT in my collection with Intelliframe. When I was playing a lot I ran a 68/3000 Maxflo at about 925 PSI and the trigger was very responsive, bit of a air pig, but I did not really care. So the bottle is out of inspection range now and I am looking to get a new air system for it but here is my dilema. All the info I have found on the Ninja and Guerilla regs suggest they only go up to 850 and I am concerned it will not be sufficient to give mne that really bouncy trigger that I loved. Does anyone have some personal experience with either of those systems and an RT Mag or know if either can be raised above 850 for output pressure?
    That which does not kill us, cripples us for life.
  • vintage
    Registered User

    • Aug 2013
    • 1787

    #2
    the standard Ninja high pressure can be shimmed up over 900, the super high pressure comes at 1100 and can be reduced to 950.

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    • blackdeath1k
      Registered User
      • Jan 2002
      • 2436

      #3
      Here is stats on the ninja v2 shp pressures. Ninja paintball even got involved. http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...+shp+pressures

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      • Nobody
        Nobody's Perfect
        • Oct 2001
        • 3384

        #4
        Use a regular output tank, adjust the on/off pin by taking off small amounts of length then testing it. Simplest, easiest method to get RT effect...

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        • UncleStasiu
          Registered User
          • Apr 2014
          • 81

          #5
          One more option: put a new bottle on your MaxFlo. Crossfire sells tanks without a reg, or get a Ninja and sell the reg out of it. I've done the latter twice now. It's a wash on the money, but I get to keep cool old regs in service rather than tossing them on the scrap heap.

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          • Automag Ranger
            Registered User

            • May 2011
            • 149

            #6
            Originally posted by UncleStasiu View Post
            One more option: put a new bottle on your MaxFlo. Crossfire sells tanks without a reg, or get a Ninja and sell the reg out of it. I've done the latter twice now. It's a wash on the money, but I get to keep cool old regs in service rather than tossing them on the scrap heap.
            I do the same thing. I have the 4500psi 3rd Gen Smart Parts In-Line Max-Flo system for my x-valve Minimag and an AGD 3000psi Flatline system for my RT MicroMag. I re-hydro the tanks as long as I can, then buy a new tank without the reg.

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            • kutter
              Half a bubble off...
              • Dec 2001
              • 251

              #7
              Thanks very much for all the info everyone. I think I am going to go with 68/4500 Ninja to replace the aging Max-Flo for now and then see if I can track down just a bottle for the Max-Flo at some point, but if I recall correctly it is reverse thread, is that standard for all bottles?
              That which does not kill us, cripples us for life.

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              • BigEvil
                www.BigEvilOnline.com

                • Feb 2005
                • 9333

                #8
                Originally posted by UncleStasiu View Post
                One more option: put a new bottle on your MaxFlo. Crossfire sells tanks without a reg, or get a Ninja and sell the reg out of it. I've done the latter twice now. It's a wash on the money, but I get to keep cool old regs in service rather than tossing them on the scrap heap.
                FYI Crossfire is out of the paintball business. Not sure if they are still selling anything.

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                • UncleStasiu
                  Registered User
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 81

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigEvil View Post
                  FYI Crossfire is out of the paintball business. Not sure if they are still selling anything.
                  Huh, you're right. When did that happen?

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                  • BigEvil
                    www.BigEvilOnline.com

                    • Feb 2005
                    • 9333

                    #10
                    Originally posted by UncleStasiu View Post
                    Huh, you're right. When did that happen?
                    When it became more profitable to take gov't contracts than make paintball stuff.

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                    • kutter
                      Half a bubble off...
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 251

                      #11
                      So as it turns out I am not crazy, well I might still be, but, all the info I was finding for Crossfire stuff was outdated.

                      Now I know they did not even make their own bottles, most of the ones I am familiar with are Luxfer, I am sure there are others as well. Does anyone have a source of supply for just a fiber bottle to fit and old Max-Flo 3000psi?

                      Oh, and can someone tell me, do I just buy the normal high output Ninja adjustable tank and it can be raised above 850psi by adding/removing, shims and/or springs? I watched a quick video so it seems fairly straight forward, just not sure if you have to special order to get one to go over 950psi output pressure.
                      That which does not kill us, cripples us for life.

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                      • blackdeath1k
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 2436

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kutter View Post
                        So as it turns out I am not crazy, well I might still be, but, all the info I was finding for Crossfire stuff was outdated.

                        Now I know they did not even make their own bottles, most of the ones I am familiar with are Luxfer, I am sure there are others as well. Does anyone have a source of supply for just a fiber bottle to fit and old Max-Flo 3000psi?

                        Oh, and can someone tell me, do I just buy the normal high output Ninja adjustable tank and it can be raised above 850psi by adding/removing, shims and/or springs? I watched a quick video so it seems fairly straight forward, just not sure if you have to special order to get one to go over 950psi output pressure.
                        Ninja SHP goes up to 1200 or so

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                        • livinglikeakid
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 16

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kutter View Post

                          Oh, and can someone tell me, do I just buy the normal high output Ninja adjustable tank and it can be raised above 850psi by adding/removing, shims and/or springs? I watched a quick video so it seems fairly straight forward, just not sure if you have to special order to get one to go over 950psi output pressure.
                          I used a ninja dura tank with SHP NINJA set to 1200 and found it returned the trigger so hard that it was uncomfortable. Check Ninja gear for bottles and regs sold together if you are looking for new.

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                          • Nobody
                            Nobody's Perfect
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 3384

                            #14
                            Originally posted by livinglikeakid View Post
                            I used a ninja dura tank with SHP NINJA set to 1200 and found it returned the trigger so hard that it was uncomfortable. Check Ninja gear for bottles and regs sold together if you are looking for new.
                            I will reiterate. You do not need to pump INSANE pressures to get the RT effect. Modify the on/off pin(trial and error-my guns RT great at about a .720 length pin with a standard 800psi/hp preset) and there is no need to get new regs, or more importantly have a tank that is purely dedicated to one gun. As well as, if you use it on any other gun could destroy noids and cause blowouts in any macroline.

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                            • Spider-TW
                              U R techno-literate!

                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3554

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Nobody View Post
                              I will reiterate. You do not need to pump INSANE pressures to get the RT effect. Modify the on/off pin(trial and error-my guns RT great at about a .720 length pin with a standard 800psi/hp preset) and there is no need to get new regs, or more importantly have a tank that is purely dedicated to one gun. As well as, if you use it on any other gun could destroy noids and cause blowouts in any macroline.
                              You should do that with a spare pin around. I've met a couple of people that had pins too short, which fire on pull and release of the trigger (sometimes more than once). The valve wasn't really RT'ing, it was free running. The valve didn't want to RT. When you get it real close to that point, the tension on the field strip screw can decide how it will run. Otherwise, it works pretty well. The shorter it gets, the more you should keep the pin in the same marker.

                              At the same time, if you collect a good amount of mags, having a dedicated HP tank for multiple markers (and another tank or two for others) isn't a bad deal.

                              I could never get behind a dedicated tank for a single marker. I did try.

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