Quesitons about tank pressure with your mags, and with your OTHER markers.

[Cyco-Dude]

But please tell me why this is wrong.

does it not change the contact point of the sear? the shorter the pin, the less contact the sear edge has with the bolt lip? i presume that would cause increased wear of the bolt and sear (and chipped sears if it's an rt classic sear). also, who says altering the on/off pin is the "recommended method to give reliable rt effect"? i've got plenty of reactive valves with standard .750 pins that has very reliable, controllable rt effect with 875-975 psi.

[Nobody]

does it not change the contact point of the sear? the shorter the pin, the less contact the sear edge has with the bolt lip? i presume that would cause increased wear of the bolt and sear (and chipped sears if it's an rt classic sear). also, who says altering the on/off pin is the "recommended method to give reliable rt effect"? i've got plenty of reactive valves with standard .750 pins that has very reliable, controllable rt effect with 875-975 psi.

Each valve will react differently on RT effect. Some valves will be lower and some valves will be higher.

No, it does not effect any physical portion of the sear to the bolt. You are effecting how fast the on/off pin comes back into contact with the sear. That is what and how BigEvil told me to do.

Chipped sears, i believe is more from wear and use, than anything else. It could also be metal fatigue or age. I don't know. Never seen one nor experienced a chipped sear. But on my mags, i run about a .720 pin and when i sweetspot my triggers, it can sing.

[blackdeath1k]

The classic RT Sears that would chip had a carbide tip on them. In theory they would last longer due to being harder. But in fact they had a tendency to chip due to brittleness.

As far as how to obtain reactiveness. Do what you want. But I've got 3 markers so having 3 tanks is helpful. It's not hurt me having 2 tanks set at 950psi.

[athomas]

The shorter pin does affect how much of the sear comes in contact with the bolt, because the on-off opens and pushes the bolt forward before the sear is fully rotated forward. The bolt only catches on the tip of the sear. That is why it is recommended that you don't go too short. A really short on-off will work, but the amount of sear catching the bolt is so small, that it puts excessive pressure on that small contact area causing accelerated wear.

[Spider-TW]

The shorter pin does affect how much of the sear comes in contact with the bolt, because the on-off opens and pushes the bolt forward before the sear is fully rotated forward. The bolt only catches on the tip of the sear. That is why it is recommended that you don't go too short. A really short on-off will work, but the amount of sear catching the bolt is so small, that it puts excessive pressure on that small contact area causing accelerated wear.

I have seen a level 10 used with an RT pin that was at the length where the tension on the field strip screw decided if it caught the bolt or not. It had a lot of nibble marks around the edge. I also did that on my pneumag when I was chasing recharge on the classic valve with RT on/off. It very quickly started nibble marks, just with the 800 psi crossfire bottle.

[Beemer]

You can mess with the pin ALL you want if you want but ask yourself this. WWTKD [what would .. do]

Take your perfect working classic and put 1000 into it and see how it shoots.

Wait WTF where is TK.

Hey TK should I mess with the pin or just jack the input pressure up?

Note..........He wont answer that for obvious reasons.

There is really no need to modify the pin from OEM if the rest of your set up is right unless you just want to mess with folks.

[Beemer]

So from my reading, it seems that some guys are getting good performance around 650 or 750, but the majority seem to be a good bit over 800, on up around 1100. Ballparking here of course. I ask because my Ninja tank is maxed at 850. A new high pressure reg is easy enough, but then what about using that tank with OTHER markers? The few people I've talked to all said other guns should officially have no problem regulating higher tank pressure, but unofficially they probably would NOT use it, if for no other reason than blowing Orings. I'm no expert, just looking for what experience you guys have had. For those of you, probably most, with multiple markers, do you guys run 'em all high? ...do you have multiple tanks?

ADJUSTABLE REG...................ONE Tank any gun.........Can you say FlatLine or Dynaflow.......NOT screw in ASA. What happened Here???????

[Nobody]

You can mess with the pin ALL you want if you want but ask yourself this. WWTKD [what would .. do]

Take your perfect working classic and put 1000 into it and see how it shoots.

Wait WTF where is TK.

Hey TK should I mess with the pin or just jack the input pressure up?

Note..........He wont answer that for obvious reasons.

There is really no need to modify the pin from OEM if the rest of your set up is right unless you just want to mess with folks.

And what about your non AGD board and programming in one of your Emags? Does TK know you have Jai-ware in your gun?

With all due respect to TK, as he walked away, he left the door open to any and all to continue using AND modifying his products to ways he never imagined. So just because this is not the way that TK would do it, it does not mean it is wrong. When he saw the various PneuMags, EgoMags and every other mag that was presented to him at Tunaball, i did not hear 1 word saying anything bad about them. Nice try Beemer. See you in June. I owe you a drink