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  • flampaint
    Registered User

    • Nov 2013
    • 448

    #1

    EVO E-Mag only wants to belnd paint

    So I finished my EVO build and went to my local field today: I was a bit disappointed as this thing was breaking at least 9 out of 10 balls.

    The valve (RT Pro) was runnning fine as a standard emag before (same frame)
    Detents are new
    Barrel sizing was perfect for the paint (was shooting my autococker with the same barrel and had no issues at all)

    I tried turning the fps way down and then slowly work my way up - that didnt work either

    Any ideas as to what could be causing this? Could it be the detents?
    I'm clueless on this one...

    If anyone knows what could be causing this I would be very thankful if you could share it here.
    Thanks!
  • maniacmechanic
    PrestonCoPaintball
    • Aug 2006
    • 3453

    #2
    detents ??

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    • renie
      Registered User

      • Oct 2011
      • 445

      #3
      check how far you detents are wound in, they only need to be nipped up and not squash the oring too much.

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      • Nobody
        Nobody's Perfect
        • Oct 2001
        • 3384

        #4
        Check feedneck for any obstructions, any possible jagged edges.

        When the paint breaks, is it in the breech or in the barrel?

        Check the detent depth. Try running with one detent, then add in the 2nd one.

        Check the L10 kit.

        Check dwell of board and board settings.

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        • athomas
          Of course it works-its AGD
          • Jan 2002
          • 8039

          #5
          Hopper pushing paint past detent? Small paint plus strong hopper may cause issues.
          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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          • flampaint
            Registered User

            • Nov 2013
            • 448

            #6
            Originally posted by athomas
            Hopper pushing paint past detent? Small paint plus strong hopper may cause issues.
            That sounds plausible, specially because I was running a borrowed Rotor on which i hadn't turned the tension down all the way. I'll look into that! (duh, could've thought about it myself too...)
            Thanks!

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            • flampaint
              Registered User

              • Nov 2013
              • 448

              #7
              Originally posted by Nobody
              Check feedneck for any obstructions, any possible jagged edges.

              When the paint breaks, is it in the breech or in the barrel?

              Check the detent depth. Try running with one detent, then add in the 2nd one.

              Check the L10 kit.

              Check dwell of board and board settings.
              Feedneck and setting are all good. It was definitely breaking in the barrel (clean bolt/breech) - so that reinforces the theory about the hopper pushing paint past the detents. The paint was fairly small (I was using a .684 insert and it was still rolling through with ease - so not really a "snug fit")

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              • flampaint
                Registered User

                • Nov 2013
                • 448

                #8
                Originally posted by renie
                check how far you detents are wound in, they only need to be nipped up and not squash the oring too much.
                Yup, they're set up just right. No super-small /thin oring either (which could IMHO also lead to potentially turning them in too far)

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                • flampaint
                  Registered User

                  • Nov 2013
                  • 448

                  #9
                  Originally posted by maniacmechanic
                  detents ??
                  Yes, detents. Please let me enlighten you

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                  • BigEvil
                    www.BigEvilOnline.com

                    • Feb 2005
                    • 9333

                    #10
                    Any time anyone has paint breaking issues these days always suspect the paint. Paint these days is god-awful. However since you said it shot out of other guns ok then there is definitely an issue.

                    Emag right? What are your electronic settings?

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                    • flampaint
                      Registered User

                      • Nov 2013
                      • 448

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigEvil
                      Any time anyone has paint breaking issues these days always suspect the paint. Paint these days is god-awful. However since you said it shot out of other guns ok then there is definitely an issue.

                      Emag right? What are your electronic settings?
                      Yup the paint was OK for sure. I'll have to check the settings and will post here once I have them.
                      As for the Rotor: i took it apart and the tension adjustment was set to max (Dye R1) - so I turned out the screw as far as possible in order to reduce tension to the max. I'll give it a try later today and I'll be back here with a full report

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                      • BigEvil
                        www.BigEvilOnline.com

                        • Feb 2005
                        • 9333

                        #12
                        I suspect trigger bounce is stalling your system...

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                        • flampaint
                          Registered User

                          • Nov 2013
                          • 448

                          #13
                          So, I just went through an entire hopper without breaking a single paintball - all I did was reduve the Rotor's tension to the lowest setting. So, it seems that the rotor was simply pushing at least one or two paintballs past the detents, thus causing the constant barrel breaks... duh...
                          thanks for the input everyone!

                          For completeness' sake, these are my settings (XMOD Beta 1.8 board):
                          Semi mode
                          ROF 14
                          ACE OFF (duh)
                          FIX 45
                          DWELL 11
                          Trigger ACE sensitivity fully functional and reading out where I want it to be along the trigger's trajectory

                          Thanks!

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                          • BigEvil
                            www.BigEvilOnline.com

                            • Feb 2005
                            • 9333

                            #14
                            Your FIX is WAY high but that shouldn't be the problem,... but you dwell is VERY low. Raise it to 20.

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                            • flampaint
                              Registered User

                              • Nov 2013
                              • 448

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigEvil
                              Your FIX is WAY high but that shouldn't be the problem,... but you dwell is VERY low. Raise it to 20.
                              will do! thanks

                              I actually based my settings off the Niedtech "bounce table" (Excel file where you can input your desired dwell)

                              Is there another type of "standard" setting which works best for most applications (obviously there's not going to be THE only true one but something which is more or less broadly usable in most situations?)
                              Last edited by flampaint; 12-19-2016, 12:05 PM.

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