Sear not fully catching bolt

[captian pinky]

The night I had agd videos going on YouTube while playing with Paintball stuff, and Tom said in one of them bolt stick is always the spring, bolt stick is never an o ring. Maybe someone knows which video that was.

that is not always true. improperly tuned level 10 or also ult issues can cause this aswell.

i recommend checking to make sure the level 10 is tuned properly and using the correct carrier.

[Tunaman]

Thought it might be worth mentioning that someone else has told me that red springs being too tight is somewhat of a common occurrence.

I removed a pretty significant amount of material in my opinion, and it works perfectly now (I think.)

I had purchased an extra spring before I went at it, but I really took it down. So much so that all of the paint is gone from the inside of the spring, and the inside corner of the spring coil is visibly rounded out. Idk if it was necessary, but I got tired of doing small increments and getting no results. I might polish the new spring less, now that I have some point of reference.

I'll let you know how it goes.

Jim

I have never seen a spring that was too tight in 20+ years of fixing mags...

[luke]

There is a good gap. I actually notched out part of the frame where the single trigger would contact if the trigger rod was too long.

Too large of a gap is equally as bad as too short, your trigger rod adjustment may still be out of spec.

[tucson.az.jbreen]

Now that I have the marker working, I'll test it with the unmodified red spring and see if it continues to work.

Not sure what else I changed.

[maniacmechanic]

so ya got it shootin/workin , ya just don't know what fixed it ?? aughh been following to see what it was !!

[tucson.az.jbreen]

I believe the run away rt effect was caused by dried out o rings in the on off.

The bolt stick went away after I sanded the inside of the spring down.

Is it possible that leaking on/off o rings would pressurize the chamber too soon affecting the bolts ability to reset?

That would be my only other guess.

Big Evil, did you mean that you've been seeing red springs that are too tight? Or did you mean you've seen people incorrectly assuming their springs were too tight.

There seems to be disagreement as to wether the spring could be causing an issue by being wound too tightly.

For the record, when I put the red spring on to the bolt, there was a noticable effort required to get the spring pushed onto the base of the bolt. The gold and silver springs slid right on. The red spring I sanded goes on and off with no effort now.

Also what would a mag typically do if you did face the trigger rod too short? Would there be performance issues? Or mainly increased wear to components?

And yes maniacmechanic, I got it to shoot two cases of paint flawlessly in one expensive day. :O

Thanks,
Jim

[Menace_AO]

OP,

First of all, I have to second Nobody's note that messing around with the frame is unwise. If you find a need to modify the frame to prevent bad parts interaction, then there is almost certainly something else wrong in the system that has been improperly diagnosed, and improperly fixed, which improper fix may well have introduced a new problem into the works.

However, the fact that you put in a new valve and it worked fine hints at the possibility of the culprit being the on/off top o-ring.

It may sound odd or non-intuitive, but try replacing the on/off top o-ring(s), oiling them up good and plenty, and seeing if that sorts it out.

While you are in there, you might also take a look at the on/off pin top to see if there are any visible scratches in the polished sealing surface. It may sound like an odd thing to look at, but try it just the same.

I'd be very surprised if your problem has anything to do with the springs.

[athomas]

Leaking on-off orings would definitely cause bolt stick and reset issues.

[tucson.az.jbreen]

Case closed.

[Mbataska]

Sorry I haven't been on in a while but the issue persists and I give up. I'm sending it to tuna tomorrow, we will see what's up when he gets it. I will post all results and anything learned, thank you everyone that tried to help me out.

[93klauss]

Soooo, did you get a verdict?

[Mbataska]

Verdict in!

I sent my mag to tuna and he went through it and he found it had a problem in the on/off area. And the bright idea I had for solving my problem with the trigger rod being too long by notching out the grip frame to accommodate, did not work at all. I think someone in this post tried to tell me off the get go, that-that was a bad idea (sorry to you, shouldn't have thought I had it all figured out). I wish I had more technical information to give you guys for future diagnostics but if I knew that I wouldn't have had to send it to Tuna. Maybe he will chime in with details if needed.


A big thanks goes out Tuna for helping a nobody on here like me. Thanks to Tim of AGD for your amazing customer service, and thanks to everyone that responed to try to help me out, this gun beat me up that's for sure, Thanks a million, I'm stoked. Gonna try to get some people to go out to fox paintball in Newark IL on Saturday and try this baby out. If anyone's in the area and wants to join PM me.

[blackdeath1k]

Verdict in!

I sent my mag to tuna and he went through it and he found it had a problem in the on/off area. And the bright idea I had for solving my problem with the trigger rod being too long by notching out the grip frame to accommodate, did not work at all. I think someone in this post tried to tell me off the get go, that-that was a bad idea (sorry to you, shouldn't have thought I had it all figured out). I wish I had more technical information to give you guys for future diagnostics but if I knew that I wouldn't have had to send it to Tuna. Maybe he will chime in with details if needed.


A big thanks goes out Tuna for helping a nobody on here like me. Thanks to Tim of AGD for your amazing customer service, and thanks to everyone that responed to try to help me out, this gun beat me up that's for sure, Thanks a million, I'm stoked. Gonna try to get some people to go out to fox paintball in Newark IL on Saturday and try this baby out. If anyone's in the area and wants to join PM me.

Glad she is all fixed up and running. on/off pin has got me on a few mags in the past.

Fox? Nice little field. I would have been at there scenario a few weeks ago but they had it on the same day as Sherwood's 26 hour game.