This is Weird. Replace the back part of your mag (the reg) what a plamer reg!?

[GallagherAtWar]

Originally posted by lilthugbobby
this is wut i did. the betta mag.

i took the Regulator Seat, Regulator Valve Pin, and Regulator Valve Pin Spring out of 68 automag valve on my gun. now i use a rock palmer stabilizer regulator wit a gauge and it is mad consistant. the acc. is awsome! i say my automag is more consistant than some cockers. wit this regulator my mag can not freeze up because it stops liquid co2 from going into the gun. i ordered another nitrogen tank for this gun..then it would be even better.

one time i shot my mag with a full 20oz co2 tank which is suspose to put out up to 1200psi into the gun. it waz mad reactive and their waz no way for me to short stroke it. mags shoot mad easy on paintballz cuz i waz shooting like this at like 500fps to test it out to see if the paint would shoot ok. i had a standard feed mag with a 12v revy and i didnt chop or break paint.

I read this in a post an I'm posting it here to see what people think.

Whould this work??

Is he saying to get rid of the regulator that came with the gun and put a palmer reg on??

Chri$$

[krafty]

Sure it would work... Palmer makes a version of the Stabilizer called the sideline... it screws right into the side of the AIR valve. You use the sideline stabilizer to regulate velocity and either have the AIR wide open (so it doesn't actually regulate) or you take out the reg piston, which I think does the same thing.

[Poseidon]

Plamer stabes are on of the best regs on the market if not the best reg. The stock reg on my mag is alright. Not great, but alright. Even with my freak it's about +-10 fps. When I had my stab on my bushies it generally was about +-4 fps, and that was with a good paint match (I didn't have a freak then).

http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/CATALOG/airsystems.htm

I don't think I'd spend the $70 on the reg unless I was shooting Co2. Even then the reg won't stop short storking or allow somone to shoot 500fps (to much pressure, balls would break).

[kenshinkandon]

It would work but I wouldn't recommend it even Glenn Palmer has stated on his websight that the stock automag works the best.

[askman]

I have vertical asa mounted in line palmer on my mag, and it works great. He recommend this model for the mag as a secondary regulator. I have not tested on my new RT valve yet, but on my classic, it was very good. (+/- 3or 4 fps) It does cost at $95 bucks. It was especially effective with CO2 using a remote. If you don't have a adjustable tank, i would recommend it.

[PyRo]

Don't replace the back half of your mag, it won't do anything for you.

[LaW]

Everyone I can't remember the website but about 2 years ago someone made a new back valve for the mag that was completely empty that was built just for this purpose.

[PyRo]

The only reason I would think you might want a completley empty back valve was if you were going to not reg the pressure with the mag valve, and rely soley on the tank reg.

[Cha0tic]

the reason why the stock reg is better is because the air has less distance to travel. the air goes from the tank, to the reg, and is then directly in to the valve. if you gut the reg, and attach another reg on to it, the air has to go from the tank, through the reg, then through the empty chamber, and then into the valve. i believe it was Rob that explained this a long time ago.

not to mention that it will not provide a performance difference worth 80 bucks.

[LaW]

I remember the company now. The website was xpbs.com but it isn't there anymore. The guy there did a lot of custom work and one was an empty back valve that was regulated by the tank reg or something like that.

[pballer6]

This guy has a point. Im not saying the stock automag reg is bad but compare it to a cocker with a vert reg. My old cocker got +\- 4-5fps with the stock reg and a preset hpa tank. My teammate gets even better consistency wit his MacDev Air setup, like 2-3 fps. Poseidon just said he gets +\- 10fps on his stock automag reg. Thats a bid difference and is pretty bad. And most you out there say that a hpa tank directly regulated into a stock AGD reg would work better than a hpa hooked up to a stab then through a gutted reg into the valve. Your wrong(IMO). The gutted reg would act as air chamber which would give the vavle plenty of air without shootdown. I think it would work beter on a classic valve and not so good on a RT. I also believe that if you were to use a MacDev Gladiator reg and MacDev Conquest Adj. HPA tank, it would get you even closer to cocker consistency or mabye better. Somene should get an ANS automag reg and gut it out and try this. That way you wont mess up your stock reg. Its worth a try.

[Cha0tic]

pballer, just because the gutted reg will act as an air chamber, it does not mean squat about getting less shootdown. smart mag has a bigger air chamber, does it help with shootdown? nope. the magic box was a bigger air chamber. did it help with shootdown? nope.

[pballer6]

relax

it wasnt about the shootdown(it was a theory and my bad if it wrong)...it was about the consistency problem..

[the electrician]

looky here, don't gut the mag reg, a stock mag with a quality air system will shoot at good consistency. if it doesn't, the problem is something else.

[mykroft]

Well, my Mag, with a stock Reg, gets +/-5-6 fps on nitro, a bit more on CO2. The Stabilizer is better at keeping CO2 out of the valve than the stock AIR Reg is, so if you are running CO2, it's not a bad idea. The Mag is quite a consistent gun, if set up correctly.