Range on a 'mag

[Army]

Well, licking your finger and wiping the top inside of your barrel will make inconsistant spins too

By working, I mean reliable for every shot. You are correct though, the best launched ball will have zero spin in any direction.

[Poseidon]

LOL,

I read that the first back spin barrel was made buy putting sandpaper on the top of the barrel, in the last few inches. :)

So what if every other ball would break, those few shots that didn't break would fly inconsitently a long way... hehehehe :)

[PyRo]

Maybie you could rub the sandpaper over the top of the end of the barrel. That might put some random spin on it :)
Don't actually do this.

[MidnightRider]

"Finger Licking Good"

A spin-off (pun intended) of Army's coment, how about a nubbin of some sort at the end of the barrel? I have never owned or shot a z-body but isn't that how a z-body works in principle? Why not an aftermarket barrel with the nubbin type device already installed.

Just a crazy idea.

Peace

MR

[MidnightRider]

"Finger Licking Good"

A spin-off (pun intended) of Army's coment, how about a nubbin of some sort at the end of the barrel? I have never owned or shot a z-body but isn't that how a z-body works in principle? Why not an aftermarket barrel with the nubbin type device already installed.

Just a crazy idea.

Peace

MR

[Joe 90]

tried and tested

ok, i'm probly gunna get kick for saying this, but....
AIRSOFT!
there. bb 'guns'. etc. Now, for those who don't know what i'm talking about, these 'guns' are plastic 1:1 replecas of real weapons, anything from an m16 to an m60. Now, these 'toys' fire a 6 mm plastic ball bearing at non leathal speeds i'e wont break the skin at point blank. Now, the simualritys to paintball are many, including the type of games played with them i.e capture the flag. for more information on 'airsoft' point your browsers towards www.arniesairsoft.co.uk

THE POINT OF THIS POST!
at last! phew. now, to increase the range of these bb's (much like small, solid paintballs), backspin is appled as the ball travels down the barrel, via a small pad of rubber on the top half of the barrel. This mechanisum is called HOP-UP, and the basic idea is the same as that of the flatline-only that HOP-UP has been around for much longer. the HOP-UP is also adjustable for different BB weights, simply by moving a lever that adjusts the amount of pressure the rubber pad puts on the BB as it travils past. Rifling has been proven not to work on sphiricle (spl? you know what i mean!) projectiles, and as such has been ignored by the Airsofting community. HOP-UP puts backspin on the BB, effectivly 'sucking' it into the air, giving extremly long range, with the BB 'zooming' in the sky at the end of it's flight, with exceptional acceracy.

what am i trying to say? why has a relitivly small airsoft community (compared to paintball)developed a way of increasing range that has become industry standard, yet paintballers, still with all these major companys, have yet to decide on one bore size for paintballs (ALL bbs are 6mm), and are behind airsoft? of cause, there will be faults in my argument. Could HOP-UP (or a veriation other than flat-line witch uses a bent barrel) be implemented into paintball?

peace,
out.

Joe 90

[skipdogg]

joe 90,

it would be nice if all paintballs were the same bore size. and not so fragile!! ah well, a man can dream....

[pbR2k2]

What exactly does a z-body do??

[hitech]

Re: tried and tested

Originally posted by Joe 90
why has a relitivly small airsoft community (compared to paintball)developed a way of increasing range that has become industry standard...Could HOP-UP (or a veriation other than flat-line witch uses a bent barrel) be implemented into paintball?

BBs, etc. are SOLID objects. Paintballs are not. They have a "non-solid" fill. When you spin the shell, the fill doesn't move, at least not at first. If paintballs were solid things would be MUCH different.

[trevy38]

uhh yeah

First of all, I don't care about airsoft. Second, they don't have nearly the range of a paintball, third... I would rather have a few different bore sizes than anywhere from .15 g to .46 g or higher weight differences adding variables on my ball's trajectory. Yes, I know about airsoft. No, I don't like it. Back to the subject at hand...

[Cristobal]

backspin is appled as the ball travels down the barrel, via a small pad of rubber on the top half of the barrel. This mechanisum is called HOP-UP, and the basic idea is the same as that of the flatline-only that HOP-UP has been around for much longer. the HOP-UP is also adjustable for different BB weights, simply by moving a lever that adjusts the amount of pressure the rubber pad puts on the BB as it travils past

You have just described how the Z-Body works, only it uses a screw to dial in the ammount of pressure exerted by the pad. See http://www.galacticz.com/ for more info on "Hop-Up" and the Z-Body.

[Joe 90]

bah.

fair do's. no harm done, just knowlage gained! thanks for everything guys. no hard feelings?

stupid newbie!

[Cristobal]

no hard feelings?

'course not :)

and give him a break about the Airsoft, Galatic even says on their site it's an adaptation to paintball of an idea that's widespread in Airsoft. Despite the differences in the sports, the z-body is still one of only two systems I've seen (the other being the flatline) that actually is effective at putting spin on the paintball.